[Oliver_W]

I'm pretty sure it was changed after filming, apparently to a)fit Remembrance Sunday b)to develop Yaz more before the ending c)to be closer to the last time we met Yaz's family.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Urgh, just fucking sack Chibnall already.
Didn't they drop the episode count to ten so he could reliably release a season a year? If he can't even manage that, what's he playing at? And why isn't the special airing on Christmas Day? The excuse they gave is BS, "The production team has run out of festive ideas." This is the first Christmas the current production team has, so what are they talking about?

I miss RTD - he gave us 14 episodes a year, along with Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood! Now we have a showrunner who can't be bothered to crank out 11 per year?

Tbf, this won't be a Chibnall thing.

Moffat had many breaks and, most of the time, it was out of his hands.

It seems more and more to be a budgetary issue.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm pretty sure it was changed after filming, apparently to a)fit Remembrance Sunday b)to develop Yaz more before the ending c)to be closer to the last time we met Yaz's family.

Where did you read this?

I just checked and 'Demons of the Punjab' and 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos' were filmed together in the last production block.

If that's what you're referring to, the show is never filmed in broadcast order.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Where did you read this?

I just checked and 'Demons of the Punjab' and 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos' were filmed together in the last production block.

If that's what you're referring to, the show is never filmed in broadcast order.

Wait, so you mean Tosin Cole had already had eight episodes to learn how to act up to this point and he still couldn't manage it?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MB.

Wait, so you mean Tosin Cole had already had eight episodes to learn how to act up to this point and he still couldn't manage it?

He's the worst thing about it. Hope he dies.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

He's the worst thing about it. Hope he dies.

Him and Graham to sacrifice themselves so Grace can come back?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

:Hope he dies.

The actor?? You horrible bastard!!

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MB.

Him and Graham to sacrifice themselves so Grace can come back?

No because Graham is the best companion.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Where did you read this?

I just checked and 'Demons of the Punjab' and 'The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos' were filmed together in the last production block.

If that's what you're referring to, the show is never filmed in broadcast order.

No, that's not what I was referring to.

There are posts on GallifreyBase about it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

There are posts on GallifreyBase about it.

Care to elaborate?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Care to elaborate?

I'll upload screenshots when I'm on laptop tomorrow! The gist is "it happened", I can't remember if it goes more indepth.

[Marsh.]

Oh no, I don't want "proof" of where you've seen it.

I just wondered if there was more information, like a particular reason the order was changed.

[Denver]

There is no Xmas episode this year

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

There is no Xmas episode this year

FAKE NEWS!

It's airing on New Year's Day!

[Rob!]

I really don't understand why they're not doing a Christmas episode if they're just moving it a week later to New Years Day. If they've just moved it so that they can throw in an extra episode of Mrs ****ing Brown I shall be pissed.

[Marsh.]

It's probably so they don't feel obliged to add Christmas to it as a plot point or anything.

Something tells me the BBC insists that even if Christmas is not part of the plot, it must still be set at that time and feature it in someway.

[Rob!]

It’s never bothered them that much before. They’ve had non Christmassy episodes before that have just been established as taking part on Christmas with a tinsel joke or something and then just got on with the plot.
Also the episode synopsis for it is spoilery.

Spoiler:

It says all the companions “return home” so clearly they all survive the finale.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

They’ve had non Christmassy episodes before that have just been established as taking part on Christmas with a tinsel joke or something and then just got on with the plot.

Yeah, that's what I mean though, now they don't feel obliged to have Christmas trees in the background and set it at Christmas at all.

Or include a scene with snow just because like has happened a couple of times.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh no, I don't want "proof" of where you've seen it.

I just wondered if there was more information, like a particular reason the order was changed.

I'll paste the posts below:

I think Episode 6 was episode 9 and Episode 8 was episode 6. Anyway, I think it was brilliant to put Demons earlier. We get to know Jaz better now and not in the penultimate episode of the series, it gave more sense of continuity for her character arc having Arachnids close to it, and, given the last two episodes not being everybody's cup of tea, having Demnos now was kind of needed.

and

Yes, it looks like it might have been changed for Remembrance Sunday, as this was an episode that featured World War 2 soldiers, and a remembrance for the dead (there was even a shot of flowers that looked like poppies, I wonder if that was added in)

It's possible there were other reasons, maybe they were just more confident in this episode, and thought it would fit better in this slot (the fact that this was IIRC the last one filmed but was shown halfway through the series indicates some confidence)
Or maybe Joy Wilkinson's Witch-hunter episode is much darker, and they thought it'd fit better later on.

Anyway as SBTB says it worked out for the best, as "Conundrum" wasn't that well received and this really, really was. We needed a new beloved episode Also people seemed to really want more Yaz, and this met their needs.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'll paste the posts below:

I think Episode 6 was episode 9 and Episode 8 was episode 6. Anyway, I think it was brilliant to put Demons earlier. We get to know Jaz better now and not in the penultimate episode of the series, it gave more sense of continuity for her character arc having Arachnids close to it, and, given the last two episodes not being everybody's cup of tea, having Demnos now was kind of needed.

and

Yes, it looks like it might have been changed for Remembrance Sunday, as this was an episode that featured World War 2 soldiers, and a remembrance for the dead (there was even a shot of flowers that looked like poppies, I wonder if that was added in)

It's possible there were other reasons, maybe they were just more confident in this episode, and thought it would fit better in this slot (the fact that this was IIRC the last one filmed but was shown halfway through the series indicates some confidence)
Or maybe Joy Wilkinson's Witch-hunter episode is much darker, and they thought it'd fit better later on.

Anyway as SBTB says it worked out for the best, as "Conundrum" wasn't that well received and this really, really was. We needed a new beloved episode Also people seemed to really want more Yaz, and this met their needs.

Yep, wouldn't put any stock in that at all. It's someone taking the production order as broadcast order and that's never been the case.

Series 11 was filmed as:

Block 1
Ep. 1 The Woman Who Fell to Earth
Ep. 9 It Takes You Away

Block 2
Ep. 2 The Ghost Monument
Ep. 3 Rosa

Block 3
Ep. 4 Arachnids in the UK
Ep. 8 The Witchfinders

Block 4
Ep. 5 The Tsuranga Conundrum
Ep. 7 Kerblam!

Block 5
Ep. 6 Demons of the Punjab
Ep. 10 The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos

Block 6
NYD Special

Pretty much blocked due to directors used and locations filmed at. Like Rosa and The Ghost Monument both filmed scenes in South Africa so were filmed in one block.

[Scarlett.]

S12 will be out next year, not 2020
https://www.starburstmagazine.com/do...broadcast-2019

[Oaker]

Not Chibnall wanting to quit already

[Greg!]

The next ep looks promising! Looks fun which is what some of the previous ones were lacking

Youtube video

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Oaker

Not Chibnall wanting to quit already

They need to get RTD back if he does

[Marsh.]

Good to know they've gone back into production.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dia.

S12 will be out next year, not 2020
https://www.starburstmagazine.com/do...broadcast-2019

Thank god for that

Originally Posted by Oaker

Not Chibnall wanting to quit already

and that too

Originally Posted by Greg!

The next ep looks promising! Looks fun which is what some of the previous ones were lacking

Youtube video

tbh that short clip is already the best episode so far this year, so it looks promising!