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user104658 · 17-01-2019, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

She should never have been in office in the first place
She was a divisive and atrocious Home Secretary, and she is for me, the worst ever person to hold the office of PM ever.

Her own party would dump her tomorrow if anyone really wanted to take the role on at this moment in time.

She's got swivelling cowards around her, wanting her job but only once something is eventually sorted as to brexit.

Brexit,the thing she has made an absolute mess off due to her own difficult to deal with personality.

She should resign and in doing so, do something decent for once in her political career.

I agree with this Joey, Cameron himself should have stayed and tried to clean up his own mess with Brexit and then stepped down afterwards in my opinion. I didn't particularly like him but other than his arrogance in allowing Brexit to happen in the first place; personality-wise he's far from the worst Tory. I honestly think May is borderline incompetent, she seems to be completely out of her depth and was never a good candidate for PM in the first place, she only got the role because Cameron was a coward and ran for the hills and blatantly as you say no one else wanted the job, because they all know that navigating Brexit is a career-ender no matter what (which is why Cameron should have stayed, as the damage was already done for him).

However I do think what bots says above is true; there's no point in her resigning until it's finished, it wouldn't make any difference, she might as well finish this mess and then go.

Livia · 17-01-2019, 09:12 AM

She should remain in office. She's shown more tenacity and guts than any of the men in her cabinet. Don't agree with everything she says and does but I do admire her as a woman and as a politician.

If she doesn't remain in office, we have a real chance of getting Corbyn. Does anyone want that? Really?

user104658 · 17-01-2019, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

She should remain in office. She's shown more tenacity and guts than any of the men in her cabinet. Don't agree with everything she says and does but I do admire her as a woman and as a politician.

If she doesn't remain in office, we have a real chance of getting Corbyn. Does anyone want that? Really?

I want the tories out

but to be fair, no, not under Corbyn. Tory politics is awful but at least they're somewhat honest about what they are and what they believe. I wanted to believe that Corbyn is what he claims to be but over time, it just becomes more apparent that he's disingenuous. I just don't trust that what's in his head matches up with what comes out of his mouth, even more so than the average politician.

Livia · 17-01-2019, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I want the tories out

but to be fair, no, not under Corbyn. Tory politics is awful but at least they're somewhat honest about what they are and what they believe. I wanted to believe that Corbyn is what he claims to be but over time, it just becomes more apparent that he's disingenuous. I just don't trust that what's in his head matches up with what comes out of his mouth, even more so than the average politician.

British politics... what a ****ing mess.

We agree about Corbyn. We have to have a strong opposition to stand up to the government, but he's really divided people.

While I admire May's tenacity, I think if there was a general election tomorrow I'd have to write "none of the above" on my ballot paper.

bots · 17-01-2019, 10:07 AM

I dislike so much about all the current political parties. It's a very dangerous situation though because if an election happens in the near future, its like someone disastrous on a whole new level could get in. This is a situation that is repeating itself all over the world, not just here or in America and it's social media that has facilitated it.

Scarlett. · 17-01-2019, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I want the tories out

but to be fair, no, not under Corbyn. Tory politics is awful but at least they're somewhat honest about what they are and what they believe. I wanted to believe that Corbyn is what he claims to be but over time, it just becomes more apparent that he's disingenuous. I just don't trust that what's in his head matches up with what comes out of his mouth, even more so than the average politician.

I gotta agree, I used to believe in Corbyn, but as we've learned more and more about him, I've gone way off him, Labour need to use this time to get another leader, they need to be a real opposition again

Livia · 17-01-2019, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dia.

I gotta agree, I used to believe in Corbyn, but as we've learned more and more about him, I've gone way off him, Labour need to use this time to get another leader, they need to be a real opposition again

It makes me really happy that people seem to be turning away from Corbyn. There's a reason he and his terrorist-supporting cronies - John McDonnell in particular - were never anywhere near the cabinet of the previous Labour government. And yes, they need to be a real opposition with a real chance of getting in.

arista · 17-01-2019, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

She should never have been in office in the first place
She was a divisive and atrocious Home Secretary, and she is for me, the worst ever person to hold the office of PM ever.

Her own party would dump her tomorrow if anyone really wanted to take the role on at this moment in time.

She's got swivelling cowards around her, wanting her job but only once something is eventually sorted as to brexit.

Brexit,the thing she has made an absolute mess off due to her own difficult to deal with personality.

She should resign and in doing so, do something decent for once in her political career.

Yes Joey
but we are where we are

She will step down after Brexit.
Conservatives have a internal election
so now she does not have to resign

Livia · 17-01-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Joey
but we are where we are

She will step down after Brexit.
Conservatives have a internal election
so now she does not have to resign

She was democratically elected. I'm tired of people saying she shouldn't be be PM. What's more, she's proved herself to have more balls than her entire cabinet. Like her or hate her... she's doing the job she was asked to do despite enormous opposition, including from her own party. And if she does resign, who are we getting to take her place, hmm?

arista · 17-01-2019, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia

She was democratically elected. I'm tired of people saying she shouldn't be be PM. What's more, she's proved herself to have more balls than her entire cabinet. Like her or hate her... she's doing the job she was asked to do despite enormous opposition, including from her own party. And if she does resign, who are we getting to take her place, hmm?

Yes it was a Conservative Democratic Election.

Before the Next Election
she has confirmed she will step down.

Any could take her place

joeysteele · 17-01-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Joey
but we are where we are

She will step down after Brexit.
Conservatives have a internal election
so now she does not have to resign

I purely and simply would never trust her politically or believe a word she says.
She has fuelled the division from the referendum, not done a thing to reverse it.

I have never liked Theresa May even in my pre Labour days.
I'd rather a different leader than Corbyn too.

Both are sadly too stubborn but he is not the one in government.
She is.
Her endless procrastination is infuriating too.

A new referendum, I think with 3 questions would likely not get any majority.
Neither would a general election.
I'd guess Labour or the Conservatives would just be the largest party.

This has become an almighty mess of her own making.
She took control of it, she has had 3 brexit Ministers in just over two and a half years.

Culminating in over 100 of her own MPs voting against the agreement she presented, eventually after further procrastination by her.

This is chaos from a chaotic Prime Minister.