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Old 24-11-2007, 07:10 PM #26
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Rhydian was awesome tonight, he's the reason most people are watching this show, he will win this show and he'll be around for a long time yet.
Just goes to show the saying "you can't please all the people all the time" is still valid.

I thought his was performance was dull, boring, uninspiring and unemotional. It was everything a love song shouldn't be.
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I think I must be watching a different show

Rydian didnt have any emotion at all. Every week he sings the same boring stuff
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He was very boring tonight. It was good lyrically but I wouldn't have called it a performance at all. There was no emotion conveyed at all. I want him to go, and I want him to go before the final. If it were based on "Do you have singing talent?" then Rhydian would, and should win. But it's the X Factor, and people will not buy his records beyond the first one. It would be a travesty if he won. He's going to get a recording contract regardless of where he finishes, I feel, but it's not fair. He is not a pop singer, he can only sing in an operatic style, and it doesn't work. Look at G4. Successful for, admittedly, longer than I thought they would be, but now they've faded into obscurity.
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I think I must be watching a different show

Rydian didnt have any emotion at all. Every week he sings the same boring stuff
are you watching the same show?

I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
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are you watching the same show?

I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
I agree that the songs are diverse but with Rydian singing them they werent.

Every week he signs the same boring opera style

In my opinion, its getting rather boring
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
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Iv'e never heared him before tonight, I walked into my house and all my family were watching it. I thought he was AMAZING.. Rhydian to win! Couldn't see why Dannii was crying though.

But Red, you really should switch over to SCD
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
Well that's how he sings. Hope, Leon, Niki etc have sang the same every week, they haven't suddenly changed their voice and style. He's a classically trained singer so that's how he's going to sing.
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
Well that's how he sings. Hope, Leon, Niki etc have sang the same every week, they haven't suddenly changed their voice and style. He's a classically trained singer so that's how he's going to sing.
I was hoping someone would mention that. That's true, but, the style the other remaining acts sing in is a commercially successful style. Name an opera singer who's hit number one? There probably are some, but I can't think of any. Can you? You could argue that's one of his strengths, but I'm arguing it's his big weakness. He's just not going to be a pop singer.
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
Well that's how he sings. Hope, Leon, Niki etc have sang the same every week, they haven't suddenly changed their voice and style. He's a classically trained singer so that's how he's going to sing.
I was hoping someone would mention that. That's true, but, the style the other remaining acts sing in is a commercially successful style. Name an opera singer who's hit number one? There probably are some, but I can't think of any. Can you? You could argue that's one of his strengths, but I'm arguing it's his big weakness. He's just not going to be a pop singer.
Paul Potts, Charlotte Church,Russell Watson etc.
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I don't think he's a show-off, personality wise. It's more the interpretation the show wishes to give him, I feel.
Then he needs to dump Danni because she isn't doing his image any good.
I would actually have to agree with you there. He's literally been on a rollercoaster week after week - and that too, unnecessarily in my opinion.
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
Well that's how he sings. Hope, Leon, Niki etc have sang the same every week, they haven't suddenly changed their voice and style. He's a classically trained singer so that's how he's going to sing.
I was hoping someone would mention that. That's true, but, the style the other remaining acts sing in is a commercially successful style. Name an opera singer who's hit number one? There probably are some, but I can't think of any. Can you? You could argue that's one of his strengths, but I'm arguing it's his big weakness. He's just not going to be a pop singer.
Paul Potts, Charlotte Church,Russell Watson etc.
Paul Potts and Russell Watson, no way. I'll give you Charlotte Church, but even then only because she switched to pop singing. Russell Watson hasn't ever topped the pop charts (I could be wrong) and I wasn't aware of Paul even releasing a song. o_o
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
Well that's how he sings. Hope, Leon, Niki etc have sang the same every week, they haven't suddenly changed their voice and style. He's a classically trained singer so that's how he's going to sing.
I was hoping someone would mention that. That's true, but, the style the other remaining acts sing in is a commercially successful style. Name an opera singer who's hit number one? There probably are some, but I can't think of any. Can you? You could argue that's one of his strengths, but I'm arguing it's his big weakness. He's just not going to be a pop singer.
Paul Potts, Charlotte Church,Russell Watson etc.
Paul Potts and Russell Watson, no way. I'll give you Charlotte Church, but even then only because she switched to pop singing. Russell Watson hasn't ever topped the pop charts (I could be wrong) and I wasn't aware of Paul even releasing a song. o_o
They've all had number 1 albums with opera albums, as far as I know.
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
Well that's how he sings. Hope, Leon, Niki etc have sang the same every week, they haven't suddenly changed their voice and style. He's a classically trained singer so that's how he's going to sing.
I was hoping someone would mention that. That's true, but, the style the other remaining acts sing in is a commercially successful style. Name an opera singer who's hit number one? There probably are some, but I can't think of any. Can you? You could argue that's one of his strengths, but I'm arguing it's his big weakness. He's just not going to be a pop singer.
Paul Potts, Charlotte Church,Russell Watson etc.
Paul Potts and Russell Watson, no way. I'll give you Charlotte Church, but even then only because she switched to pop singing. Russell Watson hasn't ever topped the pop charts (I could be wrong) and I wasn't aware of Paul even releasing a song. o_o
They've all had number 1 albums with opera albums, as far as I know.
I didn't say it before, but I was meaning singles. Didn't know that though, I guess that's an own goal xD
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I Would Do Anything For Love, Phantom Of The Opera, Get The Party Started, You Raise Me Up, GO WEST and now Somewhere.

That's the most diverse list of songs that any of the acts have done this series.
All rearranged to be sung in the same style...... High Opera....... *yawn*
Well that's how he sings. Hope, Leon, Niki etc have sang the same every week, they haven't suddenly changed their voice and style. He's a classically trained singer so that's how he's going to sing.
I was hoping someone would mention that. That's true, but, the style the other remaining acts sing in is a commercially successful style. Name an opera singer who's hit number one? There probably are some, but I can't think of any. Can you? You could argue that's one of his strengths, but I'm arguing it's his big weakness. He's just not going to be a pop singer.
Paul Potts, Charlotte Church,Russell Watson etc.
Paul Potts and Russell Watson, no way. I'll give you Charlotte Church, but even then only because she switched to pop singing. Russell Watson hasn't ever topped the pop charts (I could be wrong) and I wasn't aware of Paul even releasing a song. o_o
They've all had number 1 albums with opera albums, as far as I know.
I didn't say it before, but I was meaning singles. Didn't know that though, I guess that's an own goal xD
oh right.I don't think too many Opera singers bother releasing singles, it's almost always albums and quite a few top the charts.
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oh right.I don't think too many Opera singers bother releasing singles, it's almost always albums and quite a few top the charts.
People like my Grandmother buy them!
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oh right.I don't think too many Opera singers bother releasing singles, it's almost always albums and quite a few top the charts.
People like my Grandmother buy them!

I totally just thought of Daniel O'Donnell there. Why is he popular? Because old women love him. I can only assume people are voting for Rhydian because they're wowed by the opera style voice. But you'd all find it very same-y listening to him every day on the radio.
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Niki was the performance of the night, and I'm not saying it because I am a fan of hers but because she outsung Niki a million and one times over. I don't like the style of classical singers.
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Niki was the performance of the night, and I'm not saying it because I am a fan of hers but because she outsung Niki a million and one times over. I don't like the style of classical singers.
Oh definitely, Niki had a couple of offnotes and was still the best of the night.
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