[chuff me dizzy]

The speech she gave saying she was "Stepping aside" You've not stepped aside love, you've been booted off !!

[Cal.]

Surely it will begin to founder now the GC has gone.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

Ryan shouldn’t have even made it into the cast, let alone got this far

That has nothing to do with
Gemma Going.


Gemma has been terrible from the first show she was on
FACT

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Surely it will begin to founder now the GC has gone.

No we can now have a proper show
No Gimmicks

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The speech she gave saying she was "Stepping aside" You've not stepped aside love, you've been booted off !!

I know

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Surely it will begin to founder now the GC has gone.

Not at all, I found her really boring, same thing every week with the hands and Matt twirling around her, Ryan is better because he is more likely to fall and Brian has bounced his partner off the ice twice now

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not at all, I found her really boring, same thing every week with the hands and Matt twirling around her, Ryan is better because he is more likely to fall and Brian has bounced his partner off the ice twice now

Yeah, but like her or not Gemma was bringing in people to watch every week just wanting to see what she'd to next. I guarantee there'll be people who have no interest anymore in watching someone who played cricket and Leanne from Corrie performing each week.

She wasn't good though, and deserved to go, but I wouldn't have moaned if she stayed - she was entertaining!

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Yeah, but like her or not Gemma was bringing in people to watch every week just wanting to see what she'd to next. I guarantee there'll be people who have no interest anymore in watching someone who played cricket and Leanne from Corrie performing each week.

She wasn't good though, and deserved to go, but I wouldn't have moaned if she stayed - she was entertaining!

Yep the ratings were higher this series and thats due to all the publicity and Gemma is the one thats giving the show that and Gemma is all what people talked about

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Yeah, but like her or not Gemma was bringing in people to watch every week just wanting to see what she'd to next. I guarantee there'll be people who have no interest anymore in watching someone who played cricket and Leanne from Corrie performing each week.

She wasn't good though, and deserved to go, but I wouldn't have moaned if she stayed - she was entertaining!

You'll be surprised at how many people wouldn't have tuned into the show due to Gemma being on the show.

Most people don't want to watch TOWIE contestants.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Yeah, but like her or not Gemma was bringing in people to watch every week just wanting to see what she'd to next. I guarantee there'll be people who have no interest anymore in watching someone who played cricket and Leanne from Corrie performing each week.

She wasn't good though, and deserved to go, but I wouldn't have moaned if she stayed - she was entertaining!

better than the snooze james jordan seen some of his performances back on yt but how dull and boring can he be

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yep the ratings were higher this series and thats due to all the publicity and Gemma is the one thats giving the show that and Gemma is all what people talked about

You're talking short term success, her appearance on the show will do long term damage just like how Katie Waissel was a contributing factor as to why series 8 of TXF rated significantly lower, or why Nikki Grahame stopped most of the British public from ever voting on Big Brother ever again.

They brought loads of viewers with them short term, but they all did long term damage to their respective franchises.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You'll be surprised at how many people wouldn't have tuned into the show due to Gemma being on the show.

Most people don't want to watch TOWIE contestants.

Yeah people might have tuned out, but not many did. My great aunt for example vowed she'd never watch again after like week 3, and still tuned in each week after saying Gemma ruined it.

Besides, you're forgetting Gemma isn't just a TOWIE star. She's made a name for herself in other ways - and the amount of people tuning out now will be much higher than the amount tuning out because of her appearance.

It may appear to be not as high, but factor in those who are tuning back in as they did stop watching as well.

DOI didn't have great ratings last year anyway, and were much better this year. Katie and Nikki as you mentioned had their respective controversies during the peak of the shows. DOI had its peak before it was axed.

[Amy Jade]

More tuned in to see Gemma than tuned out because of her, ratings are up so there is no question she brought in viewers.

Also I find it really sad people are having a pop at her still. She was very gracious at being voted off, her haters could probably learn a bit from her attitude last night.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

More tuned in to see Gemma than tuned out because of her, ratings are up so there is no question she brought in viewers.

Also I find it really sad people are having a pop at her still. She was very gracious at being voted off, her haters could probably learn a bit from her attitude last night.

She could've easily had another rant, or kicked off, or refused to skate off, or anything but she took it like a professional, did her best and accepted the result. I don't get why people are still bitter over her. She was never gonna win and neither were anyone who left so far so what's wrong with her staying a few extra weeks over people who were going to leave anyway

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You're talking short term success, her appearance on the show will do long term damage just like how Katie Waissel was a contributing factor as to why series 8 of TXF rated significantly lower, or why Nikki Grahame stopped most of the British public from ever voting on Big Brother ever again.

They brought loads of viewers with them short term, but they all did long term damage to their respective franchises.

Eh... series 8’s ratings dropping was nothing to do with Katie Waissel series 8 started off with 11 million same as Katie’s season but dropped because of the series, nothing to do with katie

[Amy Jade]

I think basically TXF concept had well and truly gotten tedious by season 8. Katie was one of the people I enjoyed because she was unpredictable.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Eh... series 8’s ratings dropping was nothing to do with Katie Waissel series 8 started off with 11 million same as Katie’s season but dropped because of the series, nothing to do with katie

Series 7 was averaging about 15 million viewers weren't it? and at it's highest could even reach just under 20 million.

Series 8 never got anywhere near those numbers.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

More tuned in to see Gemma than tuned out because of her, ratings are up so there is no question she brought in viewers.

Also I find it really sad people are having a pop at her still. She was very gracious at being voted off, her haters could probably learn a bit from her attitude last night.

We'll see how the show does cope long term I suppose.

I have nothing personal against Gemma, I just don't like watching fake TOWIE routines, they don't entertain me personally, but I wish her the best of luck in the future.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Series 7 was averaging about 15 million viewers weren't it? and at it's highest could even reach just under 20 million.

Series 8 never got anywhere near those numbers.

And that was not due to katie, the ratings went down as the weeks went by.. katie wasn’t on that series. As i said 8 and 7 had 11 million ratings on the first episode but 7s ratings went up because the series was good and 8 went down because i guess people wasn’t that keen on the changes and people got bored, nothing to do with katie.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

We'll see how the show does cope long term I suppose.

I have nothing personal against Gemma, I just don't like watching fake TOWIE routines, they don't entertain me personally, but I wish her the best of luck in the future.

But the occupation of the celebrity has nothing to do with whether or not they're good or not, or 'fake' Kem and Wes both come from Love Island known for being full of wannabe reality types, yet are among the more talented of their series?

[Lewismacfarlane]

Whos going this week I think Ryan and Brian

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

Whos going this week I think Ryan and Brian

Jane and Ryan, I can't see Brian going next week, Jane deserves to go she doesn't skate at all on her own

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LukeB

And that was not due to katie, the ratings went down as the weeks went by.. katie wasn’t on that series. As i said 8 and 7 had 11 million ratings on the first episode but 7s ratings went up because the series was good and 8 went down because i guess people wasn’t that keen on the changes and people got bored, nothing to do with katie.

I know of a lot of people that wouldn't come back because of Katie Waissel, and to a lesser extent Cher Lloyd as they just didn't like them, were they the sole factors as to why series 8 lost ratings throughout it's run? No, but I do find it interesting that despite the show could pull in 19 million viewers on special occasions in series 7 that series 8 couldn't get anywhere near that number at any point during it's own series and it wasn't like there wasn't any talented acts in the line-up of series 8.

TXF made a few botch ups during series 7 & 8 that killed the franchise, but I do think that it starts with saving Katie 4 times over more talented acts that didn't help as the general public do care about a singing contest remaining a singing contest and the judges not saving the more talented acts over Katie made the masses lose trust with the show, and then series 8 declaring contestants as bullies probably made things even worse for themselves.

DOI was stuck between a rock and a hard place last night that was partly of their own making, where it was between the significantly weaker skater versus the more unpopular with the public and been in the bottom two three times skater, whoever they picked to save was gonna upset a lot of people as there was valid reasons as to why both should leave, and I'm personally thinking that overall Ryan is less hated than Gemma so will probably have made the right decision for themselves, but we'll see.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

But the occupation of the celebrity has nothing to do with whether or not they're good or not, or 'fake' Kem and Wes both come from Love Island known for being full of wannabe reality types, yet are among the more talented of their series?

I'm no Kem or Wes fan, but they're at least taking part in the series trying to do decent performances every week, Gemma just did joke act Diva routines every week with no effort to try and get better, they're not comparable imo.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by arista

That has nothing to do with
Gemma Going.


Gemma has been terrible from the first show she was on
FACT

Agree completely !