[arista]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

We're gonna need a transgender subforum soon.

No that Sub Section
can Feck Off

[Cherry Christmas]

A transgender man whose baby is at the centre of an historic human rights battle cannot yet get child benefit, a High Court judge has been told.

The baby could become the first person born in England or Wales who will not legally have a mother due to a dispute about the infant's birth certificate.

Lawyers say the baby is the child of a single parent who was born a woman but now lives as a man after undergoing surgery.

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They have told judges that he had been biologically able to get pregnant and give birth but had legally become a man when the child was born.

He wants to be identified as the child’s 'father' or 'parent' on a birth certificate but a registrar told him the law requires people who give birth to be registered as mothers.

The man has taken legal action after complaining of discrimination. He says forcing him to register as the child’s 'mother' breaches his human right to respect for privacy and family life.

Because of the delay in the completion of the birth certificate, he has been left unable to claim child benefit.

The case has been analysed at hearings in the Family Division of the High Court in London and lawyers representing the man are lined up against lawyers representing the Registrar General for England and Wales and Government ministers. A trial might not take place until next year.

Mr Justice Holman was given updates on developments on Tuesday, when he oversaw the latest hearing

Lawyers said the baby had been given a passport because British citizenship had been established.



The law seems clear enough as it stands, it would require a change in the law to cover this meanwhile the child benefit which is the key issue here I feel will remain unpaid...oh well

[Cherry Christmas]

and in answer to Parms question I don't know, this seems to be a case of the father putting himself before the child

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

A transgender man whose baby is at the centre of an historic human rights battle cannot yet get child benefit, a High Court judge has been told.

The baby could become the first person born in England or Wales who will not legally have a mother due to a dispute about the infant's birth certificate.

Lawyers say the baby is the child of a single parent who was born a woman but now lives as a man after undergoing surgery.

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They have told judges that he had been biologically able to get pregnant and give birth but had legally become a man when the child was born.

He wants to be identified as the child’s 'father' or 'parent' on a birth certificate but a registrar told him the law requires people who give birth to be registered as mothers.

The man has taken legal action after complaining of discrimination. He says forcing him to register as the child’s 'mother' breaches his human right to respect for privacy and family life.

Because of the delay in the completion of the birth certificate, he has been left unable to claim child benefit.

The case has been analysed at hearings in the Family Division of the High Court in London and lawyers representing the man are lined up against lawyers representing the Registrar General for England and Wales and Government ministers. A trial might not take place until next year.

Mr Justice Holman was given updates on developments on Tuesday, when he oversaw the latest hearing

Lawyers said the baby had been given a passport because British citizenship had been established.



The law seems clear enough as it stands, it would require a change in the law to cover this meanwhile the child benefit which is the key issue here I feel will remain unpaid...oh well

Bold bit - there is nothing else to say. Except...

The baby has a passport? How'd the baby get passport without a birth certificate?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Bold bit - there is nothing else to say. Except...

The baby has a passport? How'd the baby get passport without a birth certificate?

The baby has a birth certificate. I think the parent is asking for a change?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The baby has a birth certificate. I think the parent is asking for a change?

it doesn't, it says so right at the top of the article.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The baby has a birth certificate. I think the parent is asking for a change?

"He said the child at the centre of the case had not been given a birth certificate because a judge had yet to rule on the man’s challenge."

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Livia

"He said the child at the centre of the case had not been given a birth certificate because a judge had yet to rule on the man’s challenge."

Correct, no birth cert, no child benefit, though I thought a cert was also needed for a passport so that is an odd one

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Correct, no birth cert, no child benefit, though I thought a cert was also needed for a passport so that is an odd one

Well, I know an elderly gentleman who had never had a birth certificate or passport, had never been abroad, had to go abroad for a wedding... Discovered that the place holding the record of his birth (in a tiny village) burned to the ground in the 1950's... So there simply wasn't one.

He did manage to get a passport through other means of establishing British citizenship though. Its just a longer / more involved process.