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Cherie · 31-03-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The NHS is ****ed one way or another. It was a great concept, but given it's massive success, it has made itself unviable in the long term. It's unsustainable. We can watch it die slowly over the next 20 or so years or we can modernize it's concept, that's the reality

Not necessarily, with proper funding and management it is sustainable, the problem with the NHS is that their are too many Chiefs and not enough Indians and it needs a complete overall with how its run and funded

arista · 31-03-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

I'd not trust a Tory government with that. That's the whole point.

I can understand that............

Sticks · 31-03-2019, 12:46 PM

The expectation is that with the help of the Labour Party it will be a No Deal Brexit on 12 April.

The Labour Party, in spite of what they bluster are 100% in favour of a Hard No Deal Brexit

This is because St Jeremy wants it, as he wants to enact the 1983 Labour Party manifesto to leave the EEC, (with No Deal??), when he entered the House of Commons

Youtube video

Twosugars · 31-03-2019, 01:58 PM

Article 50 petition to cancel Brexit passes 6m signatures

Livia · 31-03-2019, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

I would

You would NOT!

Livia · 31-03-2019, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Article 50 petition to cancel Brexit passes 6m signatures

Six million signatures calling to cancel the result of the biggest democratic vote in UK history. And I'd like a proper recount on the 6m to ensure they're all eligible to vote in the UK.

arista · 31-03-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

The expectation is that with the help of the Labour Party it will be a No Deal Brexit on 12 April.

The Labour Party, in spite of what they bluster are 100% in favour of a Hard No Deal Brexit

This is because St Jeremy wants it, as he wants to enact the 1983 Labour Party manifesto to leave the EEC, (with No Deal??), when he entered the House of Commons

Youtube video

Only a few Labour MP's
would have No Deal in 2019.

All the rest Half Conservatives / Most of Labour
and All of SNP and others are 100% Blocking No Deal.

The PM is now refusing a No Deal option.

So April the 12th
is fecked, as well.

Sticks · 31-03-2019, 02:12 PM

They can all vote for the Moon to be made of Purple Cheese, that would be a more meaningful vote

We are leaving on 12 April with no deal by default, END OF

Livia · 31-03-2019, 02:13 PM

I hope we do leave on 12th April. And then I never want to hear the word "Brexit", ever again.

arista · 31-03-2019, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

They can all vote for the Moon to be made of Purple Cheese, that would be a more meaningful vote

We are leaving on 12 April with no deal by default, END OF

Sadly our Pathetic PM
goes to EU Special Summit
on April the 10th Wednesday
for a Crazy Extension again

Sticks · 31-03-2019, 02:23 PM

I thought they were meeting to shore up their no deal plans and to tell the UK it can stew in it's own juice

bots · 31-03-2019, 02:43 PM

with them meeting on the 10th, if we are looking for a further extension, that would be when we request it. There are still loads of possible alternatives at this point, albeit too close to the deadline for comfort

Northern Monkey · 31-03-2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Six million signatures calling to cancel the result of the biggest democratic vote in UK history. And I'd like a proper recount on the 6m to ensure they're all eligible to vote in the UK.

They’re not.
I’ve read of people getting their kids to sign it and creating email accounts for newborns to sign.Not to mention foreigners finding ways to sign.

bots · 31-03-2019, 03:17 PM

i don't see how signing an on line petition is a stronger message than the many more millions that put crosses on a ballot paper

smudgie · 31-03-2019, 03:35 PM

If all the members of parliament simply voted for what their individual constituencies voted for then it would be so much more straight forward....and honest.

AnnieK · 31-03-2019, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I hope we do leave on 12th April. And then I never want to hear the word "Brexit", ever again.

I'm almost at that point too and I am firmly in the Remain camp

arista · 31-03-2019, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie

If all the members of parliament simply voted for what their individual constituencies voted for then it would be so much more straight forward....and honest.

Yes that's the Real Democracy - we do not have

smudgie
Bang On Right

Withano · 31-03-2019, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

I hope we do leave on 12th April. And then I never want to hear the word "Brexit", ever again.

Itll be replaced with Brejoin

arista · 31-03-2019, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Itll be replaced with Brejoin

No that would be Corrupt
The PM's head is on the table
she must do something.

Both SNP and Labour
Demand a Election.
They would have to join to take power
most experts say

user104658 · 31-03-2019, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

No that would be Corrupt

The PM's head is on the table

she must do something.

Both SNP and Labour

Demand a Election.

They would have to join to take power

most experts say

I think given the current circumstances the SNP may well consider a one-term coalition with Labour, if doing so would result in a majority government.

Possibly with the caveat being a second indy referendum at the end of that term.

arista · 31-03-2019, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think given the current circumstances the SNP may well consider a one-term coalition with Labour, if doing so would result in a majority government.

Possibly with the caveat being a second indy referendum at the end of that term.

No
they would be Lucky to be in Power.
Their own wishes are not for us , now
at this time.

Sticks · 31-03-2019, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think given the current circumstances the SNP may well consider a one-term coalition with Labour, if doing so would result in a majority government.

No chance, Labour always refuse to work with any other political party and always have. They always stand a candidate in every constituency, even when that splits the opposition vote and lets the Conservatives in.

Anyway this is all moot

We're Leaving without a deal etc...

Twosugars · 31-03-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes that's the Real Democracy - we do not have

smudgie
Bang On Right

.

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If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.
David Davis MP in a speech, 19 November 2012

arista · 31-03-2019, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

No chance, Labour always refuse to work with any other political party and always have. They always stand a candidate in every constituency, even when that splits the opposition vote and lets the Conservatives in.

Anyway this is all moot

We're Leaving without a deal etc...

But if they do not Join with SNP
No Power.....................

Its not the same now
SNP and Labour talk alot

Sticks · 31-03-2019, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

But if they do not Join with SNP
No Power.....................

Its not the same now
SNP and Labour talk alot

They don't need to they will do it all by themselves, "No pacts, No Deals" to quote Neil Kinnock

Labour will do it on their own, so they keep telling us.

Working with other parties?

NEVER
Never
NEVER!!!!!

Now where else have we heard that one...

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