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Old 10-05-2019, 02:02 PM #1
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What an obnoxious twat he is.
I watched it at lunchtime.
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Ben forgot he wasnt on American cable news. The tactic of labelling the interviewer a leftie and playing the victim didnt work this time
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Eh. While Shapiro didn't come off brilliantly, to say Neil "destroyed" him (like some comments claim) is pushing it a bit.
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Eh. While Shapiro didn't come off brilliantly, to say Neil "destroyed" him (like some comments claim) is pushing it a bit.
He kinda did. Shapiro thinks of himself as a smug tw*t with an answer for everything. He prides himself on the fact that he can debate many topics of the top of his head from memory. I havent seen him this agitated for quite a while
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And the way he batted away Shapiro trying to label him a leftie made me laugh out loud. This wasnt the usual cable interview Shapiro is used to.
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Shapiro is a moron and he's the worst kind of moron because he thinks he's the most clever person in the room when it truth he's an idiot that looks to play the victim the first chance he gets. Watching him stumble over the whole 'Fascist' thing was a delight as was the way that Andrew Neil effortlessly derailed his attempts to accuse the show of bias. The whole Palestinian thing was just the icing on top of the cake too, he just got completely undone by his own words and he knew it which is why he ran for the hills.

He's also the worst kind of pro-lifer because he doesn't really believe in the sanctity of life or that 'life begins at conception' it's all about taking control of women's bodies away from them and his support of the ridiculous Georgia abortion laws shows that.

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And the way he batted away Shapiro trying to label him a leftie made me laugh out loud. This wasnt the usual cable interview Shapiro is used to.
He didn't do his research at all, he tried all his usual tactics and they just fell apart so he ran.
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Depends how you define "destroy" I guess. He certainly pissed Shapiro off, but he didn't do this by raising points he couldn't counter in a debate. It was mostly "here's something you said several years ago".

That said, it was fun to watch Shapiro get flustered, and say "Trump's presidential speek in 2012"
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He didn't do his research at all, he tried all his usual tactics and they just fell apart so he ran.
Agree. Shapiro the cocky tw@t with an answer for everything, ran out of answers pretty quickly.
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I actually laughed out loud at 13:00 in. The awkward few seconds of silence after the quote is read out .

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Depends how you define "destroy" I guess. He certainly pissed Shapiro off, but he didn't do this by raising points he couldn't counter in a debate. It was mostly "here's something you said several years ago".
To be fair, I think what he's specifically pointing out is that Shapiro has now taken it upon himself to critique the "anger that Americans have for each other", and that there is a (large) list of examples of Shapiro himself being a part of stoking up that anger in the first place - and not even a small part, he's been very widely heard.
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Depends how you define "destroy" I guess. He certainly pissed Shapiro off, but he didn't do this by raising points he couldn't counter in a debate. It was mostly "here's something you said several years ago".

That said, it was fun to watch Shapiro get flustered, and say "Trump's presidential speek in 2012"
Which is fine cuz Shapiro usually has a clever answer when read out old quotes.

Have you seen Shapiro destroy Piers Moragn on gun control when Morgan had his show in America? It was carnage and I think one the reasons why Piers never made it America on the cable news network. And Shapiro did it with a very smug smirk on his face. That smirk was missing in this Andrew Neil interview
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Shapiro is a moron and he's the worst kind of moron because he thinks he's the most clever person in the room when it truth he's an idiot that looks to play the victim the first chance he gets. Watching him stumble over the whole 'Fascist' thing was a delight as was the way that Andrew Neil effortlessly derailed his attempts to accuse the show of bias. The whole Palestinian thing was just the icing on top of the cake too, he just got completely undone by his own words and he knew it which is why he ran for the hills.

He's also the worst kind of pro-lifer because he doesn't really believe in the sanctity of life or that 'life begins at conception' it's all about taking control of women's bodies away from them and his support of the ridiculous Georgia abortion laws shows that.

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Andrew is retiring from the telly.
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Shapiro admits defeat. Apparently he wasnt prepared for questions on a book he ******ing wrote.
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Eh. While Shapiro didn't come off brilliantly, to say Neil "destroyed" him (like some comments claim) is pushing it a bit.
Those comments are probably taking the piss out of the Youtube videos that are like "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS leftie liberal ice cream man AND DEVOURS HIS SOUL"
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I'm truly amazed at the fact people are disscussing if Shapiro was "destroyed " or not and don't disscuss the mans hate preaching.
When a woman is 6 weeks pregnant ie embyro .he claims that this a 6 week old child.

It really worries me for women in the US atm when you have this fool and then you have POTUS at his rallies telling them that when the mother has a baby ..the baby is wraped in a blanket...then the doc and mother decide to kill the baby or not...Shamefull lies.POTUS knows this not to be true and knows his fans love guns...These women welfare clinics already have bulletproff glass..I think we are going to get an uprise in docs working with women from rape being attacked.Anway MAGA...right back to 1940's
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I'm truly amazed at the fact people are disscussing if Shapiro was "destroyed " or not and don't disscuss the mans hate preaching.
When a woman is 6 weeks pregnant ie embyro .he claims that this a 6 week old child.
Even if you disagree with him, it's pushing it to say that his belief that life starts at conception is "hate preaching"
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Even if you disagree with him, it's pushing it to say that his belief that life starts at conception is "hate preaching"
Women and 11 yr old girls being forced to continue an unwanted pregnancy because of his beleifs is hate preaching

i know we will disagree Oliver ..but his talk about Muslims....and palastenians is nothing short of shocking.I am a Boer growing up during Apartheid.When a man claims he is a man of God but that man's life is worth less than mine it is not pushing it to say it is hate preaching.
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Women and 11 yr old girls being forced to continue an unwanted pregnancy because of his beleifs is hate preaching

i know we will disagree Oliver ..but his talk about Muslims....and palastenians is nothing short of shocking.I am a Boer growing up during Apartheid.When a man claims he is a man of God but that man's life is worth less than mine it is not pushing it to say it is hate preaching.
He hasn't spoke out against Palestine, he criticises the terrorists who run it. His talks about muslims are all backed up by polls and data etc., and he's never actually tarnished them all with the same brush.
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He hasn't spoke out against Palestine, he criticises the terrorists who run it. His talks about muslims are all backed up by polls and data etc., and he's never actually tarnished them all with the same brush.
If you had watched the video you'd know that's false Oliver because Neil reads out Shapiro quotes where he quite explicitly DOES talk about all Palestinians. He says now that he only "meant" the leadership: but that's certainly not what he said at the time.

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He hasn't spoke out against Palestine, he criticises the terrorists who run it. His talks about muslims are all backed up by polls and data etc., and he's never actually tarnished them all with the same brush.
Jeez Oliver do you mind if i ask you ..did you watch the whole interview...did you read Shapiros book that Andrew Neill was quoting from?

He clearly has spoken about Palestinans...Listen to Andrew Neil iquoteing him from his own book....If you havent bothered to read Shapiros hate spach that Andrew Neil was quoing then there is no disscussion to be had here
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Should also add Oliver.. Shapiro backtracked on insulting Arabs to saying he meant Palestestinans.But Hey he never spoke about them

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