[cc100]

sticks point almost makes me want to vote for kilroy-silk!!

http://www.veritasparty.com/

[bananarama]

Originally posted by cc100
sticks point almost makes me want to vote for kilroy-silk!!

http://www.veritasparty.com/

No one could be that desperate to vote.

[Sticks]

They aren't standing in the constituency where I live either

[cc100]

nor mine, unfortunately!!


what do you think of the BNP? theyve gone on about immigration for years and all of a sudden its the main issue in the campaign?!

[Sticks]

I tend to be neutral on immigration

Thankfully the BNP don't have a candidate standing in the area I live.

[cc100]

According to a BNP candidate on Newsnight, by 2060, the white population will be in the minority.

[Sticks]

So?

[cc100]

So, they are trying to scare the white population into voting for them.

Its not just them. Do you know how many black Tory MPs there are?

Zero.

The Tories are playing to the same ground as the BNP.

That was my point.

[Sticks]

I have even been contemplating voting for one of these minority parties

Newcastle Academy With Christian Values Party

[cc100]

Isnt voting for a minority party a wasted vote?

Ive always thought that its either Labour or the Tories, because they are the only likely winners, maybe alongside the Lib Dems in posh areas.

[Sticks]

The wasted vote is the vote that is not cast, because we can not be bothered

Whether a vote is an effective vote or not is another matter...

[Sticks]

I have just discovered that the National Front have put up a candidate where I live

[Romantic Old Bird]

Sticks, we are fed masses of misinformation about the EEC. You would be stunned to hear the other side of the story i.e., if you lived over in Holland, France or Germany.

My youngest lived in Holland for few months and was amazed at how misrepresented the contributions of other countries was, and at how much we actually get back. Our newspapers are VERY selective in how the represent Europe.

Plus all these silly comments about straight bananas etc. Simply untrue

Personally, I think our relationship with Europe is far more beneficial in every way than our unholy alliance with the US

[cc100]

I agree, Id rather be European than a yank.

Mind you, weve got to keep the pound.

Im also considering voting for UKIP

[bananarama]

Why do we have to keep the pound?????

If it is in our economic interest to do so then we should keep the pound. If it is in our economic interest not to keep the pound then we should let it go into the realms of the past.....

The point I am making is keeping something just because it has always been is so pointless. The world moves on and so it should.....

I must say i am surprised that the poll has not received a Lib/Dem vote yet!!! Not that i have any time for such a sit on the fence party but statistically I would have thought that they would have shown a result by now......

[bananarama]

The BNP (British Nutters Party) Is a nasty evil bunch of gits. Wanting to have households armed with guns to shoot burglars and any other intruder. this would of course not be to shoot burglars but to shoot any foreigner that was tricked into entering a BNP supporters household. Legalised murder of people of a different race. They are a nasty party and should be avoided like the plague.....

[cc100]

The BNP are right that householders should be able to defend their own property though.....................

[cc100]

Originally posted by cc100
The BNP are right that householders should be able to defend their own property though.....................

they also have a policy that people should be able to keep a firearm and be lawfully obliged to use it on politicians who mess up.

wonder what the lilly livered liberals think of that??!!

[Romantic Old Bird]

cc, have you been over to Europe since the Euro came in? It's fantastic, no messing around.

In 1990 we drove to Italy and had to get: French francs, Swiss francs and Italian Lire. The mental calculations were mind blowing. We ended up topping up with petol and sweeties at every border on the way back to spend up.

Since the Euro I've been to Holland France Belgium Italy Ireland, and I can use the same dosh. Great.

It has had no effect whatsoever on these countries sense of individuality. Macdonalds, Burger King, Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc are the real threats to or national identity. They are in every country you visit. And guess what? They are all US multinational companies.

I'm all for the Euro presenting a real challenge to the monopoly of the American Dollar.

We need to change. If we hadn't changed we'd still be using the groat, or bartering.

We had a european currency in the past - the Florin was used in England and the Low countries - sovereigns and crowns were international in the past. Most money is virtual anyway.

What is so great about the pound??

[Sticks]

If you can controll your own currency then you can run the economy to suit your needs. Even the mighty Germany is being effected by the Euro. As we are not in the Euro we can set interest rates and other factors to suit ourselves

[Sticks]

See also this story about Germany's woes over being in the Euro

[Romantic Old Bird]

'Germany, like the other 11 nations that currently use the euro, is bound by the European Union's 1997 Stability and Growth pact, which limits a nation's annual public deficit to less than 3% of GDP.'

STICKS, THIS IS JUST GOOD HOUSEKEEPING! Of course if you are part of a system you have to remain solvent, or you pull down everyone else and devalue the currency. That applies to the pound as well. Without this rule they would be admitting economically developing countries whose gross domestic product is limited.

Aaargh, I'm talking finance and politics. I can't believe it!!

[bananarama]

I am not against the Euro in principle. However if our economy is reasonably sound as it appears to be. Why rock the boat and fix something if it aint broke.!!!

I agree a common currency makes sense after all what sense would there be in a local town market having all it's stalls (analogy to countries) selling products in different currencies. It makes sense to unify at some time in the future.

Labour are being cautious and I don't blame them for that. A lot more sensible than extremist Victorian Tories and the senseless dive in the deep end Lib/Dem's

[bananarama]

Originally posted by cc100
The BNP are right that householders should be able to defend their own property though.....................

People should be allowed to defend their properties without fear of being prosecuted as they are now. I agree.

However with parties like the British nutters Party you have to read between the lines as to what they really want to create.....

Having ex military individuals keep assault rifles at home is a way of gearing up for an armed police state while using it as an excuse to defend the country against some mysterious invasion and burglars

If the BNP were interested in house holders defending themselves they would not restrict arms to that of ex military only...

The concept of mass or universal arming of house holders with a right to use them indiscriminately is shear madness and would lead to effectively legalised killings from all sides of society. With the BNP hatred for foreigners it does not take much working out who would get the most bullets with an accusation of stop thief……

[BusyBee]

I am afraid I have become completely disillusioned with all the parties. I live in an area where our sitting MP is Dawn Primarolo (works with Gordon Brown) and she has a huge majority.

Having been a school governor and seen the interference from the tories and labour party in the running of the school, with teachers being faced with changing curriculums on a regular basis I am afraid I dont hold out much hope for change whoever gets in that will improve schools.

Working in the legal profession, all I can say is I'll vote for the party who increases payments to legal aid solicitors in order that the poorer members of the community can get their opportunity to use the legal service. Too many of the profession are turning their back on legal aid because it is just so badly paid. For instance the number of criminal defence solicitors is decreasing because they just do not get the money for the work that is put in. Whether guilty or not someone is entitled to a defence, but it is getting more and more difficult.

So me, I am afraid I shall not be voting this time. Copping out - yes perhaps I am but I really do not feel that I have faith in any of them. Tony Blair went down in my estimation with the whole Iraq War debarcle, Michael Howard seems to pick on anything that he thinks will win votes, and Charles Kennedy, for me, doesnt have the experience to run the country.