[arista]

The Superstar
the Rock (Dwayne Johnson), said on GMBHD itv in a USA based interview today
that Boris is his Cousin.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes the scum that employ me and pay for all the good things in my life like holidays, cars, gifts - luxuries

pigs the lot of them

Free-capitalist martyrs . If anything it's a crime that they pay any tax at all.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

And who exactly are "the elite"?

Rich people you mean? The employers and investors of this country... the b*stards, eh?

lmao

i think so too Liv


they are so horrible, all of the jobs being made available by them for the people

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes the scum that employ me and pay for all the good things in my life like holidays, cars, gifts - luxuries

pigs the lot of them

Originally Posted by Livia

And who exactly are "the elite"?

Rich people you mean? The employers and investors of this country... the b*stards, eh?

Oh, didn't y'all know?

The world would be a better place if no-one had any money, and if we all lived off government rations and lived in shoe boxes assigned to us by Big Brother.

Creating wealth for yourself (and others!) will not be tolerated in Oceania!!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Oh, didn't y'all know?

The world would be a better place if no-one had any money, and if we all lived off government rations and lived in shoe boxes assigned to us by Big Brother.

Creating wealth for yourself (and others!) will not be tolerated in Oceania!!

Yeah those silly little cucks right? They're so stupid haha you get 'em kid. They'll see the light eventually and maybe if they're lucky gain some of this real-world no-nonsense right wing economic insight and they'll be better off for it I say.

[arista]

On our SkyAtlanticHD Tonight
at 11:05PM

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Well.
A test of that is coming, as if that poll is right the Conservatives should easily hold Brecon in the by election this week.
Despite it's dubious candidate still.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ditch him for someone that wouldn’t be so dangerous for the establishment or for the elite essentially, that’s why he’s so disliked by the Tories.

Bingo!

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well.
A test of that is coming, as if that poll is right the Conservatives should easily hold Brecon in the by election this week.
Despite it's dubious candidate still.

No sadly
on that it looks like a LibDem
win.

[user104658]

If anyone is even vaguely bothered to read something evidence based or academic instead of right wing social media ramblings:

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/...spective-42986

"If the income share of the top 20 percent (the rich) increases, then GDP growth actually declines over the medium term, suggesting that the benefits do not trickle down. In contrast, an increase in the income share of the bottom 20 percent (the poor) is associated with higher GDP growth"


There is vast, widely available, and ample evidence that aggressively reducing the tax burden on the richest people in society does not stimulate jobs or growth, but in fact results in increased amounts of money being stored in off-shore tax havens and removed from the economy entirely, causing it to shrink. This has been studied. These are facts. Trickle-down economics was debunked literally OVER 100 YEARS AGO but there are still people on here talking about it like it's obvious and logical.

To generate jobs, income, AND profit for the company owners, the optimal path is increasing consumerism and consumer confidence. You do that by pushing as much money as possible INTO THE HANDS OF CONSUMERS so that they can go out and spend it on the products and services that the mega-rich create, and so that they have to employ people to supply those services. You don't do it by skipping the consumer economy middle man and putting it directly in the offshore pockets of the already rich. It's not clever, it's not logical, it's ****ing stupid, and if you don't believe me, please SOMEONE do some actual reading on the subject.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

someone who can make Labour ''the people's party'' as they are here in my country (here with me they had their downs but now at the recent EU election they went up again and a huge majority win too)

our Labour leader Asscher is more up close with the young generation, so doing social events like football, skateboarding, basketball with youth from troubled homes

yes he is disliked by other party leaders but so were some of the Labour PM's such as highly controversial Den Uyl


but overall i like Asscher, he can have good debates against our current PM Mark Rutte, let's say he isn't like Corbyn, and he almost has a similar attitude/voice as Boris in your country has in political debates, in parliament and in tv debates

Corbyn is down with the kids too... he regularly attends music events and draws support on environmental issues is passionate about schools and universities. Campaigning and creating policies against poverty, and austerity is better than skateboarding with those already trapped in the cycle.

[Oliver_W]

If companies' running bills increase too much, they'll raise prices and possibly even lay off staff to compensate. Firing people from their joe-jobs and having expensive products isn't beneficial for the average person. Maybe there's some truth to the IMF claims, but there's a balance.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes the scum that employ me and pay for all the good things in my life like holidays, cars, gifts - luxuries

pigs the lot of them

Have you read 'The ragged trousered philanthropist'? ...you should.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Corbyn is down with the kids too... he regularly attends music events and draws support on environmental issues is passionate about schools and universities. Campaigning and creating policies against poverty, and austerity is better than skateboarding with those already trapped in the cycle.

dont forget he loves terrorists and hates jewish people. another vote winner for da yoof

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

If companies' running bills increase too much, they'll raise prices and possibly even lay off staff to compensate. Firing people from their joe-jobs and having expensive products isn't beneficial for the average person. Maybe there's some truth to the IMF claims, but there's a balance.

You mean if their shareholder profit margin drops...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You mean if their shareholder profit margin drops...

Yeah that may well happen if people can't afford their goods or services.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Have you read 'The ragged trousered philanthropist'? ...you should.

a work of fiction promoting socialism before it failed in every society that had the misfortune to endure it?


er no

[arista]

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a work of fiction promoting socialism before it failed in every society that had the misfortune to endure it?


er no

I've read it.

“Much better left alone,’ chimed in old Jack Linden sagely, ‘argyfying about politics generally ends up with a bloody row an’ does no good to nobody.”


That bit I agree with.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a work of fiction promoting socialism before it failed in every society that had the misfortune to endure it?


er no

Shame it would benefit you, those who cannot holding a carrot and stick for those who can? ... thought that would be right up your street, oh well.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've read it.

“Much better left alone,’ chimed in old Jack Linden sagely, ‘argyfying about politics generally ends up with a bloody row an’ does no good to nobody.”


That bit I agree with.

Yes best leave politics to those of a better social class...hmm?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Yeah that may well happen if people can't afford their goods or services.

Keeping wages low ensures that never happens! You mad, risk losing customers? ...crazy talk.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

dont forget he loves terrorists and hates jewish people. another vote winner for da yoof

that wouldn't get votes from the youth, rather more votes and support from golden dawn neo nazi's who are out of greek parliament but it's commonly known that they want to globally expand, so i hope they won't read any of this about Corbyn oof

[Withano]

Originally Posted by parmnion

A very telling statistic...bring on the election that labour wants...that hopeless and hapless bunch of nosewipes have no chance...why would they even think they had!!

... they want it cos tories would likely lose all power to a lab/lib coalition... tories ‘leading’ means nothing unless them+brexit=50% which it never will.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Keeping wages low ensures that never happens! You mad, risk losing customers? ...crazy talk.

The really bizarre part is that increasing wages hand in hand with increasing prices is a fundamental measure of GDP and economic growth, it's baked right into the whole thing. And wages are assessed and increase based on the cost of living. But now people are arguing that we should want to provide tax cuts to rich service providers so that they start offering their services more cheaply (until they eliminate the competition, of course then they can creep the prices back up), reducing the overall cost of living, and undoubtedly slowing down income growth. I'm pretty sure they call that a recession .