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Old 20-03-2019, 12:51 PM   #51
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I have, it wasn't for me.
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Old 20-03-2019, 01:11 PM   #52
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The whole idea of 'feeling like a man/woman' thing seems to be a general mistake people make when talking about trans people, but the truth is, being trans is about wanting to feel more like ourselves. Be that male or female, most of us don't want attention, we don't want to be different, we just want to live our lives as who we truly are.
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While Iím all for people rejecting gender stereotypes, god I donít want Sam Smith to be the face of it. Heís so incredibly boring and out of touch, and so is his music. Next please!
basically this. I'm all for non-binary people but if he isn't doing this for press then he's very good at making it seem like he is.
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As far as I’m aware, he hasn’t got an album to promote so I fail to see why he would be doing it for press?
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Old 20-03-2019, 01:54 PM   #55
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As far as Iím aware, he hasnít got an album to promote so I fail to see why he would be doing it for press?
I guess heís just trying to stay relevant
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Old 20-03-2019, 02:00 PM   #56
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After coming off a world tour, Iím sure he is
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By sounds of it he's a bloody idiot !!
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Sam Smith has asked fans to use the pronouns "they/them", not "he/him", after coming out as non-binary.

The pop star wrote on Instagram: "After a lifetime of being at war with my gender I've decided to embrace myself for who I am, inside and out."

The singer added: "I've been very nervous about announcing this because I care too much about what people think."

Six months ago, Smith said they did not feel male or female, but "I flow somewhere in between".

On Friday, the 27-year-old said they had been "surrounded by people that support me in this decision".

They wrote: "I understand there will be many mistakes and mis-gendering but all I ask is you please please try. I hope you can see me like I see myself now. Thank you."

The singer went on to say: "I am at no stage just yet to eloquently speak at length about what it means to be non binary but I can't wait for the day that I am. So for now I just want to be VISIBLE and open."

At last week's GQ Men of the Year Awards, Smith walked the red carpet wearing high heels, posting: "I'd never ever ever be able to be myself like this in front of the industry or anyone."
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theres something so annoying about him.. why does he always do the most
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Old 14-09-2019, 01:38 PM   #60
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Old 14-09-2019, 02:09 PM   #61
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basically this. I'm all for non-binary people but if he isn't doing this for press then he's very good at making it seem like he is.
Nnnn I feel like I only felt like this because I hate them
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Old 14-09-2019, 02:25 PM   #62
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Sometimes ,I feel like a bloke !!
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Personally i feel this is ridiculous
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Good for them I guess but given their history, I can't help but think they're using it as a gimmick to stay relevant which is an aggravating thought since doing so undermines the struggle for so many people.

I'll believe people are entitled to their beliefs but I've never really believed non-binary to be a thing. It's just the desire to smash gender stereotypes and roles (which is a great thing) wrapped up in a pretentious package. Be androgynous as you like, wear what you want, reject what society expects of you, I'm all for that but I've always had a bit of an issue with treating non-binary as it's own gender because surely it's the opposite? It's not a gender, it's the pure rejection of gender as a concept.
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Probs that tash.

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I'll believe people are entitled to their beliefs but I've never really believed non-binary to be a thing. It's just the desire to smash gender stereotypes and roles (which is a great thing) wrapped up in a pretentious package. Be androgynous as you like, wear what you want, reject what society expects of you, I'm all for that but I've always had a bit of an issue with treating non-binary as it's own gender because surely it's the opposite? It's not a gender, it's the pure rejection of gender as a concept.
in a nutshell

I knew a biological girl at uni who identified as a boy, which was fine because they kinda looked like one anyway, but then decided to be genderless and would get pissed when people didnt say 'them' etc and would rant about the struggles of non-binery people and I just kinda lost interest and didnt bother with that person again.. I think they were just a very unhappy lost person
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Old 14-09-2019, 08:17 PM   #67
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Omg Jamelas expression is class!! So you think like a woman do you?....
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Okay this is getting ridiculous now.

BTW I identify as a toaster xox
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what’s the issue with people identifying as gender less? how does that effect YOU in any sort of way
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Yeah how does it effect YOU

I'm fine with anyone referring to themselves as aaaanything they want... they could come out wanting to be addressed only as King/Queen rather than he/she for all I care
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He can identify however he wants, it doesn't affect anyone but him by making him look silly.

Being trans is fine, but this nonbinary stuff is just nonsense.
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I really donít see the problem, like at all? Why are people so pressed about it when it literally doesnít have an impact on you. Just let people identify with what they feel comfortable as smh.

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My question is how would you know that they were non binary in order to address them in the correct way. Will they have to inform any new person they meet immediately, seems a whole load of hassle, personally doesn't bother me what people identify as but I can see issue with this of people being labelled bigots because there is no way of knowing the person is identifying as non binary unless its the first thing that comes out of their mouth when they meet you, obviously its okay for Sam Smith because he is relatively famous but what about poor Bloggs in the street
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