[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if i remember correctly Arista, you were a staunch Corbyn supporter until recently

Sure he is OK


I say Marxist Corbyn
as that's what he is.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Socialist not marxist
We've gone too far to the right. A course correction is in order

No he is a Proud Marxist

[arista]

[Twosugars]

Francois is probably the biggest idiot in parliament now, and it is a stiff competition

[Liam-]

How would we react if say, Trump came over here and demanded a press conference was done how he wanted it to be done to avoid reporters and a rowdy crowd? He’d be told to suck it up and go with it cause he’s in Britain, so guess what, Boris should have sucked it up and do what was expected of him, not hide away like the big baby he is because he couldn’t get his own way, he’s the Prime Minister, his duty is to answer to the people and he failed to do that, the sympathy for him is actually baffling, guaranteed it wouldn’t be there if it was someone else, he’s a childish, delusional, ignorant baby.

[arista]

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by arista

I am thoroughly convinced by the jpeg image

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I am thoroughly convinced by the jpeg image

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

People change their minds,we were always labour voters until Blair.

I remember you telling me that.
When I said I and most of my family were more Conservative until the coalition got to 2012.

Not that I'd call Blair really Labour mind.


As you say people change their minds.
I have on a new referendum.
People may have changed their minds on leaving the EU too.
Which is why, as much as I detest the present government.
I myself think a referendum not a general election is how to solve this.

I have changed my mind in the last 6 months on a referendum.


I'd rather a referendum with either.
No deal and remain on it.

Or any deal, Mays, or Johnson's if he ever gets one again with remain as choices.

Because only then will you get over 50% for something.
A government elected on between 35% to 40% of the votes is not the way.
No matter the seats they get.

I said earlier, Labour were elected in 2005 with around 35% of the votes.
The Conservatives got around 32%

Yet Labour got a 68 seat overall majority.
That's ridiculous.

No way should Brexit be decided in that way with less than 50% of the votes cast.
In a general election, no one has had 50% of the votes cast for many decades.

I agree with you Kazanne, people do change their minds though.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Bull****. Freedom of speech gives us all a right to an opinion but it does not make that opinion or us beyond reproach. Brexiters are allowed their opinion and I'm allowed to call them out on their utter insanity. That is how freedom of speech works, it is a two way street.

If a decision impacts everyone you can't call any outcry against that decision undemocratic, what you are arguing for is actually really ****ing undemocratic since you're essentially are arguing for silencing the opposition through centrism and false equivalency.

Your centrism in this issue is nothing more than wilful blindness.

"That is how freedom of speech works, it is a two way street"

You denied me my freedom of speech many times on this forum, when you were a mod.

You massive hypocrite.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

"That is how freedom of speech works, it is a two way street"

You denied me my freedom of speech many times on this forum, when you were a mod.

You massive hypocrite.

You must have broken the rules

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You must have broken the rules

Freedom of speech has rules?

Tell that to your God, Dezzy.

[Tom4784]

And I'm allowed to call you a traitor.

Go side with Luxembourg over your own country. Traitor

Go side with the Empire over your own country, traitor.

The thing you'll find out is,, on here you are allowed to call them out on their insanity, but watch as I get my opinion on you deleted.

You Yellow traitor.

Here's an excellent example of the utter insanity on the Brexit side of things and how so many Brexiters have lost touch with reality.

You are basically embracing facism by making out that any criticism towards Boris Johnson is akin to being a traitor.... You should consider moving to China or North Korea, you'd do well there. Boris Johnson is a man and he is not beyond criticism and it's the right of a free country to criticise it's leadership.

You are utterly ridiculous for trying to make out that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a traitor. It's laughable.

Originally Posted by Alf

"That is how freedom of speech works, it is a two way street"

You denied me my freedom of speech many times on this forum, when you were a mod.

You massive hypocrite.

You are responsible for your own actions, Alf, no one else so for once in your life accept responsibility for your own damn actions and stop crying about how unfair things are when you get infracted just like everybody else does. You're not complaining about unfair treatment, you're mad you aren't above the rules. Stop acting like a child and blaming everyone else for your choices.

You weren't denied freedom of speech, you got infracted because you can't help but troll, bait and insult people on a regular basis. You are not a victim here and you never will be.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Alf

"That is how freedom of speech works, it is a two way street"

You denied me my freedom of speech many times on this forum, when you were a mod.

You massive hypocrite.

It's a privately run website, freedom of speech doesn't extend online

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dia.

It's a privately run website, freedom of speech doesn't extend online

So it doesn't exist then.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Here's an excellent example of the utter insanity on the Brexit side of things and how so many Brexiters have lost touch with reality.

You are basically embracing facism by making out that any criticism towards Boris Johnson is akin to being a traitor.... You should consider moving to China or North Korea, you'd do well there. Boris Johnson is a man and he is not beyond criticism and it's the right of a free country to criticise it's leadership.

You are utterly ridiculous for trying to make out that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a traitor. It's laughable.



You are responsible for your own actions, Alf, no one else so for once in your life accept responsibility for your own damn actions and stop crying about how unfair things are when you get infracted just like everybody else does. You're not complaining about unfair treatment, you're mad you aren't above the rules. Stop acting like a child and blaming everyone else for your choices.

You weren't denied freedom of speech, you got infracted because you can't help but troll, bait and insult people on a regular basis. You are not a victim here and you never will be.

How am I the victim?

My vote won.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Alf

So it doesn't exist then.

It exists in real life, but the internet is a bunch of different sites ran by a wide range of international companies, and to post on them you must follow their rules.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Here's an excellent example of the utter insanity on the Brexit side of things and how so many Brexiters have lost touch with reality.

You are basically embracing facism by making out that any criticism towards Boris Johnson is akin to being a traitor.... You should consider moving to China or North Korea, you'd do well there. Boris Johnson is a man and he is not beyond criticism and it's the right of a free country to criticise it's leadership.

You are utterly ridiculous for trying to make out that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a traitor. It's laughable.



You are responsible for your own actions, Alf, no one else so for once in your life accept responsibility for your own damn actions and stop crying about how unfair things are when you get infracted just like everybody else does. You're not complaining about unfair treatment, you're mad you aren't above the rules. Stop acting like a child and blaming everyone else for your choices.

You weren't denied freedom of speech, you got infracted because you can't help but troll, bait and insult people on a regular basis. You are not a victim here and you never will be.

I'm embracing fascism, because I voted in the UK's referendum. I'm embracing fascism because I expect that winning vote to be implemented.

I'm not the one trying to obstruct and overturn the democratic vote of the people of the United Kingdom.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Freedom of speech has rules?

Tell that to your God, Dezzy.

Take that up with the forum admins.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dia.

It exists in real life, but the internet is a bunch of different sites ran by a wide range of international companies, and to post on them you must follow their rules.

You're giving these international companies too much power by submitting to them.

Free speech is, or should be a human right.

What if these international companies had rules that said that anybody who is openly gay, will be silenced, would you just follow their rules, and accept that?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'm embracing fascism, because I voted in the UK's referendum. I'm embracing fascism because I expect that winning vote to be implemented.

I'm not the one trying to obstruct and overturn the democratic vote of the people of the United Kingdom.

[arista]

[arista]

[Kizzy]

Nobody apart from the lib dems are attempting to do that, and they have 18 MPs. . Apart from stopping brexit they don't appear to have any other policies.

[arista]