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Am I wrong in thinking that something like this would need approval by parliament? A government couldn't just decide for themselves to implement this, surely? I definitely can't see it getting through on a vote
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I think it's still so Parliament would have to support it. However with this particular PM and government who knows what normal is anymore, just my view that. I recall Blair wanted ID cards for all, not on the electoral voting issue. However that had to be dropped and not acted on. Hopefully this will be prevented. In fact ai think it's something thst should never be implemented without ALL political parties agreement. Not just a single government's. Last edited by joeysteele; 15-10-2019 at 08:42 AM. |
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IIRC Blair was still pushing his ID cards right up until the end of his term and it was actually being piloted (very small scale) during Brown's time as PM. Scrapped, ironically by the Conservatives, in 2010.
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What was the reason Blaire wanted them in place? Was it to ease people getting work etc with how expensive photo ID can be?
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Blairs ID card wasn't limited to ID it was to contain all information on you like your health status, criminal status etc etc etc. I don't think anyone has a problem with an ID card, and the government are proposing that they be free. The problem comes when defining their scope and purpose. Then it can be sinister.
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I am all for it.
Not just for voting, it’s a ruddy nightmare if you don’t have a passport or driving license. The bank wants photo ID, the solicitors need photo ID. So a free card would be handy thank you very much. |
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Authoritarian yes, I don't think communism really comes into it... Plenty of examples of authoritarian capitalism.
But yeah it was going to contain biometric data (fingerprints, iris scans I think?) and was supposedly to reduce identity theft etc. but it was several steps too far. Really dystopian stuff. Cameron's conservatives scrapped it, one of the few good things they did, but I honestly imagine Boris and pals would be all for it. Last edited by user104658; 15-10-2019 at 12:39 PM. |
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Flag shagger.
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I'm all for ID cards for everyone... although not with iris scans and fingerprints etc Blair had proposed. That's just too far.
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A solution in need of a problem.
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![]() So really the only way they could do mandatory ID for voting, is to use the current paths to getting ID - all of which come with a fee. And while it may be a relatively small fee in the grand scheme of things... No matter how small it is, it is a financial barrier to voting. "Pay to vote" in a roundabout way. A bit of a disaster for the whole concept of democracy... But I guess we're a long way down that rabbit hole already. Last edited by user104658; 15-10-2019 at 12:56 PM. |
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