[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair I think people are conflating a nearly 30 year partnership with a Love Island fling... I'm sure he deeply loves his wife and she loves him too, that won't be affected by whether he's attracted to men or women? We have no idea what their situation is, it may well be that it was her who first suspected after years of issues while he was in denial still and brought up the conversation? There's a huge assumption that he's suddenly rocked up home after a morning on telly and said "Sorry love I prefer dick, bye." leaving her reeling. It doesn't seem like that's the situation at all.

I agree with this. Him being gay doesn't mean he's duped a woman for 30 years into marrying him whilst knowing full well he's gay. Nor does it mean he didn't/doesn't love her or their relationship wasn't genuine.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Rob!

It’s called a discussion. Fail to see where I called anyone any names though which is what you claimed?

You've been very rude rob, even Josy had to tell you off for your rudeness.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Rob!

It’s called a discussion. Fail to see where I called anyone any names though which is what you claimed?

Tbf the comments you've made since you entered the thread have came across as overly angry and hostile

[Josy]

Can we get back to the initial topic now please.

[thesheriff443]

So how long before the supportive wife gets divorce papers so Phil can live his new life.

These sudden announcements usually come on the back of a scandal story.

[montblanc]

oh wow

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Josy

Tbf the comments you've made since you entered the thread have came across as overly angry and hostile

Yeah, I’ve been told because I’m gay and have no “understanding” of marriage and kids that my opinion on the matter isn’t valid but I’m the rude one. That works.

[GoldHeart]

That's what I'm wondering, what does the wife do now that he's publicly OUT ?!! .

Kids are grown up and everything

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's what I'm wondering, what does the wife do now that he's publicly OUT ?!! .

Kids are grown up and everything

What do you mean?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Yeah, I’ve been told because I’m gay and have no “understanding” of marriage and kids that my opinion on the matter isn’t valid but I’m the rude one. That works.

You were first to point out to someone that they weren't gay/had no experience of coming out as if that gave them no right to an opinion on the matter

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Josy

You were first to point out to someone that they weren't gay/had no experience of coming out as if that gave them no right to an opinion on the matter

Not really the same though is it?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What do you mean?

Will they split up now ?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Not really the same though is it?

Yes it is actually the same, the fact is anyone is entitled to an opinion on the topic because Phil made it public by doing a statement on tv

[montblanc]

definitely not the same nnn

[Rob!]

It’s in no universe the same thing

[GoldHeart]

His face & the news is everywhere but everyone shush let's pretend we haven't seen it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Will they split up now ?

I imagine they're probably divorcing which is why he's come out. Assuming, he's been out privately for a while now.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Rob!

It’s in no universe the same thing

So let's get this straight..

If you arent gay you cant have an opinion on someone coming out?

If you arent married or have kids you can still have a say on how this may affect someone's marriage/kids?

Just read how ridiculous that sounds.

End of the day it's a story that's dominating the news, anyone is entitled to an opinion and this is a discussion forum, stop trying to shut down discussion

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

So let's get this straight..

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Bad choice of phrase there

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I imagine they're probably divorcing which is why he's come out. Assuming, he's been out privately for a while now.

Probably so , but I think people are wondering if something else happened .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Reading between the lines, I reckon his wife has known (or its something him and his wife have been discussing / exploring) for years.

I hope so. My only point was it would be pretty devastating for her if it came as a massive shock, no idea why it's been made out that having this opinion makes me anti gay or fighting for straight rights

[Jigs]

Originally Posted by Josy

So let's get this straight..

If you arent gay you cant have an opinion on someone coming out?

If you arent married or have kids you can still have a say on how this may affect someone's marriage/kids?

Just read how ridiculous that sounds.

End of the day it's a story that's dominating the news, anyone is entitled to an opinion and this is a discussion forum, stop trying to shut down discussion

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I hope so. My only point was it would be pretty devastating for her if it came as a massive shock, no idea why it's been made out that having this opinion makes me anti gay or fighting for straight rights

This happens all the time on any subject, like what would a man know about something involving a woman or vice versa.

It’s an attempt to undermine someone’s opinion.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jigs

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

What a good post