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14-02-2020, 10:16 PM | #26 | ||
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What do you think would benefit us if it were legal to say hateful and abusive things?
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14-02-2020, 10:19 PM | #27 | |||
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Absolutely nothing..
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14-02-2020, 11:22 PM | #28 | |||
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How would it be beneficial to control what people can and cannot say? Why is people not feeling upset for a few minutes more important than freedom? |
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14-02-2020, 11:34 PM | #29 | |||
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Why would you want to say hateful things. |
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14-02-2020, 11:34 PM | #30 | |||
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Imo there is no need of it outside comedy or parody...
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15-02-2020, 12:18 AM | #31 | |||
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15-02-2020, 06:49 AM | #32 | |||
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people say hateful and spiteful things everyday - many examples are on this very forum, nobody bats an eye and it's not illegal, but it suddenly becomes a problem if a protected group is referenced. It's not a level playing field.
Personally, i think things have gone too far. We are now at the point where if 1 single person takes offence at something someone said, then it is classified as a hate incident. That is 100% wrong, and I can't believe that is now the law. |
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15-02-2020, 07:25 AM | #33 | |||
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To me I'd meet Oliver halfway on this topic.
I personally don't think that verbally attacking a group of people on Social Media should see you arrested. And I do agree with Oliver that violent hate crimes should definitely see the thug that committed the offence arrested. However we do get cases where say a Lesbian woman is getting harassed by a straight guy for being a Lesbian, and he keeps hurling abuse at her, imo that individual should also be arrested for harassment and a hate crime as he would've deliberately targeted her because she's a Lesbian. Obviously I'm just putting out a hypothetical scenario there (that was also quite long winded) but I hope that you guys understand what I'm trying to say.
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15-02-2020, 07:38 AM | #34 | ||
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You can cause pain/distress and fear by using words without the need for physical violence so that’s why the law is rightfully in place.
And even calling someone fat and ugly can lead to them taking their own life. It’s about what’s being said who it’s being said to, why it’s being said and who is saying it. |
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15-02-2020, 07:44 AM | #35 | |||
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in real life, and out on the Streets, you can't so you're less protected against hate crime
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15-02-2020, 08:51 AM | #36 | |||
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15-02-2020, 08:54 AM | #37 | |||
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What about groups like Brexiteers? All thick, racist, bigots who don't know what they're doing. Have they been the target of hate crimes over the past few years?
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15-02-2020, 08:55 AM | #38 | |||
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Katie Hopkins receives abusive comments everyday. Is she the victim of hate crimes?
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15-02-2020, 09:18 AM | #39 | |||
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15-02-2020, 10:20 AM | #40 | |||
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15-02-2020, 10:29 AM | #41 | |||
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15-02-2020, 12:46 PM | #42 | |||
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Have you seen the flak the creator of father ted is getting over his views?
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15-02-2020, 12:52 PM | #43 | |||
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שטח זה להשכרה
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15-02-2020, 01:05 PM | #44 | |||
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That's not what's happening though, one person is not offended many are... What is the issue is the opinions and views of those who have spoken out against certain topics relating to the trans community and being vilified for it.
As seen here being investigated, losing work, receiving death and rape threats.
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15-02-2020, 01:10 PM | #45 | |||
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15-02-2020, 01:36 PM | #46 | |||
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That's not true, and a celebrity is not void from an opinion they have no more power than you or I to change anything except a wider reach.
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15-02-2020, 04:56 PM | #47 | |||
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No-one has been alive for centuries. Things have moved on, we're not our ancestors. Class/wealth has more impact on people's lives than their race. Otherwise, the playing field is basically level.
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15-02-2020, 05:11 PM | #48 | |||
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Also wouldn't say things had moved on so much when we still have people saying hate speech is ok and should be allowed Last edited by Josy; 15-02-2020 at 05:17 PM. |
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15-02-2020, 05:14 PM | #49 | |||
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If you think freedom is the ability to call a black person a ******, then you’ve never truly been restricted.
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15-02-2020, 05:23 PM | #50 | |||
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The words she chooses to use is not part of her DNA or culture so no, not even close
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