[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Listings, reviews, awards, openings..

For free? No.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's not a defence tbh.

No matter what anyone does doesn't make it fair game for someone to be kicked whilst they're down and humiliated across the papers.

She committed a crime and the police were dealing with it. It's not the job of tabloids to punish her for it.

When you are in the public eye people Pay to see the good the bad and the ugly it’s not right but it’s reality.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

When you are in the public eye people Pay to see the good the bad and the ugly it’s not right but it’s reality.

That's right. But it shouldn't be, and incidents like this show why. That's the point.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Erm, bring up who you want I'm asking why you're asking me to acknowledge JLC in relation to the conversation we were having.

You responded to me to disagree that there is a direct correlation between Ant and Caroline and the different ways ITV dealt with it. Your examples of JLC and Dan Osborne aren't adding anything to that (that I can see, hence me asking).

If you meant those as separate points you were making then it was probably the wording of your post.

Are you saying Ant should of been sacked and never given a job again ?. I'm not going to compare the 2 , because i still think both situations with Caroline & Ant are different. Only similarities being that they hit rock bottom /got in trouble with the law .

Because you said if JLC got the same hate & scrutiny or something? , but he ruined his career and disappeared from the limelight and lost job opportunities.

Whereas Caroline was constantly in the papers , she didn't lose her job did she?. apparently it depended on the court hearing? .I', not sure as i didn't follow the case.

And Dan Wooten is a vile goblin that attacks everyone .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's not a defence tbh.

No matter what anyone does doesn't make it fair game for someone to be kicked whilst they're down and humiliated across the papers.

She committed a crime and the police were dealing with it. It's not the job of tabloids to punish her for it.

But she’s in the public eye...what happened happened..of course the press are going to expose it. It’s social media that causes most of the damage because they don’t get held accountable for the vile things they say.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's not a defence tbh.

No matter what anyone does doesn't make it fair game for someone to be kicked whilst they're down and humiliated across the papers.

She committed a crime and the police were dealing with it. It's not the job of tabloids to punish her for it.

But you know what the media are like , obviously they saw this as a big story . And anyone in the public eye of course it's going to make the news.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's right. But it shouldn't be, and incidents like this show why. That's the point.

Problem is, her death won’t see a change in the way the press act.

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Tends to happen when you bludgeon your boyfriend at 5 am

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Are you saying Ant should of been sacked and never given a job again ?. I'm not going to compare the 2 , because i still think both situations with Caroline & Ant are different. Only similarities being that they hit rock bottom /got in trouble with the law .

Those are the only similarities needed. Same employers, similar circumstances, within a small time frame.

I never said Ant should have got anything. I'm saying it's disgusting how differently they were treated. One publicly supported through his court appearance, told how he was being given time to deal with his issues and they were doing everything they could to help. God forbid, his reputation be in tatters when so much of ITV's schedule in the year relies on Ant & Dec and their golden handcuffs deals.

Caroline only makes a handful of appearances in the summer on an itv 2 show for a fraction of the price so wasn't afforded the same support.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Because you said if JLC got the same hate & scrutiny or something? , but he ruined his career and disappeared from the limelight and lost job opportunities.

You brought up JLC to begin with. I don't know why.
I simply said (in response to you bringing him up) if he got the same treatment as Caroline then I don't agree with that either.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Problem is, her death won’t see a change in the way the press act.

Well why would it , this has been happening for a long time with different celebs.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Problem is, her death won’t see a change in the way the press act.

It won't. If it didn't with Diana it certainly won't now.

But, stranger things have happened.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

But she’s in the public eye...what happened happened..of course the press are going to expose it. It’s social media that causes most of the damage because they don’t get held accountable for the vile things they say.

I never said anything about them reporting what had happened?

My point is do they simply report the facts of what has happened? No, they had to humiliate her and kick whilst she was down every single day for months. The Sun have took down several articles from the last few days, which have nothing to with "exposing" or reporting anything but designed to tear her down and mock her.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Those are the only similarities needed.

I never said Ant should have got anything. I'm saying it's disgusting how differently they were treated. One publicly supported through his court appearance, told how he was being given time to deal with his issues and they were doing everything they could to help. God forbid, his reputation be in tatters when so much of ITV's schedule in the year relies on Ant & Dec and their golden handcuffs deals.

Caroline only makes a handful of appearances in the summer on an itv 2 show for a fraction of the price so wasn't afforded the same support.



You brought up JLC to begin with. I don't know why.
I simply said (in response to you bringing him up) if he got the same treatment as Caroline then I don't agree with that either.

I didn't know enough about what Ant got and didn't get, all i know is when he was caught on camera in his car crash looking dazed and out of it that it was a very low moment for him .

I know Ant & Dec are popular and they have ITV supporting them , but i don't necessarily think Ant could get away with stuff. Plus Ant knew he needed help. His relationship was ruined because of it.

Caroline pleaded not guilty didn't she? , it's all confusing as the boyfriend phoned the police in the first place and clearly they thought it was a serious matter. It was middle of a court case so it's raw and the media will lap it up.

The media attention probably would of gone onto someone else if she pulled through this.


As for reputation some people bounce back and others don't, the media and the public can be very fickle aswell.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I didn't know enough about what Ant got and didn't get, all i know is when he was caught on camera in his car crash looking dazed and out of it that it was a very low moment for him .

I know Ant & Dec are popular and they have ITV supporting them , but i don't necessarily think Ant could get away with stuff. Plus Ant knew he needed help. His relationship was ruined because of it.

Caroline pleaded not guilty didn't she? , it's all confusing as the boyfriend phoned the police in the first place and clearly they thought it was a serious matter. It was middle of a court case so it's raw and the media will lap it up.

The media attention probably would of gone onto someone else if she pulled through this.

I never said he "could get away with stuff". I feel you're not understanding what exactly my point is so I'll just politely end this here.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

This thread is disgusting.

Why is it?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said he "could get away with stuff". I feel you're not understanding what exactly my point is so I'll just politely end this here.

You're saying he got support and she didn't, you also made it seem like ITV are more protective of Ant because of the popularity of his & Dec's TV shows.

I already know what you're saying. As I said I don't think many people knew the full extent of her mental health, and when assault allegations get thrown it onto the mix , it complicatees things.

[arista]

[Twosugars]

The Sun has removed an article about a “brutal” Valentine’s Day card mocking the deceased former Love Island presenter Caroline Flack from its website.

The story highlighted a card featuring a drawing of the presenter with a message saying “I’ll ****ing lamp you” but it was removed from the website and replaced with a legal warning, amid concerns about how the media handled coverage of her arrest.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...k-from-website


Papers like the Scum and online trolls have blood on their hands

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You're saying he got support and she didn't, you also made it seem like ITV are more protective of Ant because of the popularity of his & Dec's TV shows.

I already know what you're saying. As I said I don't think many people knew the full extent of her mental health, and when assault allegations get thrown it onto the mix , it complicatees things.

Nope, still haven't. I'm not talking about the actual support from their loved ones, family/friends. I don't know the private situation of either in regards to that kind of thing. I'm talking about the support from their representatives at ITV, nothing else.

Nobody should need to know the full extent of her mental health in order to do basic things like support them during a public mauling. And the difference between the two was clear.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, "Saint Kate is a mum" is the leading story.

[arista]

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hopefully scummy tabloids take note when it comes to other people who have openly shared how fragile their mental health has been. Schofield and Prince Harry to name two recent examples.

Report on the facts and nothing more. Witch hunts and gossip contribute nothing.

I sincerely ****ing doubt it. They didn’t stop after Diana, so why would a reality tv host killing herself make any difference?

Such sad news.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by arista

Unusually tactful from the People.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Rob!

Unusually tactful from the People.

Its their only day
Sunday People
must get the paper sold

[arista]