[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

But apparently feeling sympathy is "virtue signalling" according to some

Alexandra Burke got disgusting hate especially online , but that seemed acceptable .

If the poor girl had died or killed herself , then would those nasty things of been addressed more. I just find it bizzare.

It shouldn't have to take suicide to realise some of these people don't deserve this hate, Alexandra did nothing yet got alot of abuse & hate .

[Twosugars]

QUOTE=Kazanne;10780488]They have a lot to apologise for,
[/QUOTE]

In case we forget

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Yeah , you go and conveniently ignore the evidence of hounding by the press

And the press aren't going to blame themselves.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

QUOTE=Kazanne;10780488]They have a lot to apologise for,

In case we forget[/QUOTE]

yes thanks TS no different reporting had it been any other celeb, in fact probably it would have been worse as CF had a great relationship with the tabloids.

And as a media savvy woman who used the press for 20 years she would have understood much better than anyone on the thread how they operate.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

And the press aren't going to blame themselves.

Of course not.

The Scum had to scramble to remove another hateful piece about her on the very day she died. Then quickly switched to being all respectful and lying into ITV and CPS.

Shameless bastards.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Her good friend Lizzy Cundy said last night that she thought that the stories that it was to do with press hounding were utter rubbish as they had a great working relationship with the tabloids, especially the SUN (hence the bf using The SUn to tell his sad tale)


SO i think I will listen to her actual friends rather than TS, with respect

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes thanks TS no different reporting had it been any other celeb, in fact probably it would have been worse as CF had a great relationship with the tabloids.

And as a media savvy woman who used the press for 20 years she would have understood much better than anyone on the thread how they operate.

Hasn't crossed your mind this kind of "reporting" is wrong no matter about who?

And dont speak for her telling us how she felt faced with all powerful press.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Her good friend Lizzy Cundy said last night that she thought that the stories that it was to do with press hounding were utter rubbish as they had a great working relationship with the tabloids, especially the SUN (hence the bf using The SUn to tell his sad tale)


SO i think I will listen to her actual friends rather than TS, with respect

And I will regard the actual evidence of hounding rather than listening to you speaking for the dead

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Hasn't crossed your mind this kind of "reporting" is wrong no matter about who?

And dont speak for her telling us how she felt faced with all powerful press.

No, it reflects society and if they did not they would not be bought. You use the failing Guardian for news so there are options for everyone and if you dont like a newspaper dont buy it or look at it. Lots of choice in a free market.

[Glenn.]

Anyone that can say the press didn’t hound her is a genuine troll. There’s nothing you can say that makes it okay to do that, regardless whether she had a relationship with the tabloids.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Anyone that can say the press didn’t hound her is a genuine troll. There’s nothing you can say that makes it okay to do that, regardless whether she had a relationship with the tabloids.

Her close friend Lizzy Cundy said just that live on Talk Radio last night. SO calling a dead womans friend a troll for telling the truth

makes you what?


(you can listen again if you wish) she says categorically "she was not hounded by the press". she was abused on twitter, insta and other social media just as all celebs are

[Livia]

She was hounded by a range of people, all of them disgusting. Trolls, the press... it was an amalgamation of people taking a delight in watching her downfall, and twisting the knife with their ugly words. It was so bad she took her own life. I don't know why we have to say who should take the most blame.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Livia

She was hounded by a range of people, all of them disgusting. Trolls, the press... it was an amalgamation of people taking a delight in watching her downfall, and twisting the knife with their ugly words. It was so bad she took her own life. I don't know why we have to say who should take the most blame.

Completely agree this - she faced negative attention from all angles - including her own demons. A very sad end to a life

[Jigs]

Lizzie Cundy has always been desperate to stay in the papers and to maintain good relationships with editors, etc.

She wouldn't say anything bad about the press because she relies on building rapport with journalists in order to even stay relevant enough for an appearance on Jeremy Vine or GMB.

I would take what Cundy says with a grain of salt. She never seems to know what she's talking about and this instance is no exception.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Whilst I get what you're saying... The hypocrisy of calling people out for trying to start petty arguments, whilst... trying to start a petty argument... is not something I can really get my head around.

An awful lot of hypocrisy and holier-than-thou attitudes flying around on this thread to be honest. We're on a forum for reality television fans, ffs. We may have varying leg lengths, but not one of us has two full legs to stand on here.

...I’m just going to go back to something that was said by TS because it’s what I truly believe as well...the last sentence specifically, so I’ll just re-quote that...

...we may have varying leg lengths, but not one of us has two full legs to stand on here...


....if we lay blame, we have to look at ourselves also because the whole thing of a discussion forum such as this...is to discuss media articles and many involving celebrities...at some point we will each have given ‘harsh words’ involving some celebrity that may have not been Caroline...but it doesn’t change that we each have to take responsibility for our own words and how we use them...rather than looking to lay blame outwardly...

[thesheriff443]

Look actions get reactions.

She was in a dark place before the assault charge. It was probably all the final straw that broke camels back.

Her bf said to the operator she is trying to kill me, that is not someone who has been hit by accident.

Papers report the news and this was news, you can slag off the papers all you want but we was all on here discussing her life!!!!

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Anyone that can say the press didn’t hound her is a genuine troll. There’s nothing you can say that makes it okay to do that, regardless whether she had a relationship with the tabloids.

I'm proud to be a troll.

Trolls are the best.

[Nicky91]

some still want to defend their actions on here

how low has this forum gotten?

excuse me for saying this, but it's already sad enough that she's dead, but some going on and on with more negativity and nastiness about her

give her some rest, and let this be a learning experience for any trolls on social media/forums, press to be a lot less aggressive


i'm disgusted reading some of this thread's posts

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No, it reflects society and if they did not they would not be bought. You use the failing Guardian for news so there are options for everyone and if you dont like a newspaper dont buy it or look at it. Lots of choice in a free market.

A morally bankrupt and vile argument

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

some still want to defend their actions on here

how low has this forum gotten?

excuse me for saying this, but it's already sad enough that she's dead, but some going on and on with more negativity and nastiness about her

give her some rest, and let this be a learning experience for any trolls on social media/forums, press to be a lot less aggressive


i'm disgusted reading some of this thread's posts

Its a Public Forum
Not Controlled by any Main Stream Media.
So its a Great Forum
like no other.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

A morally bankrupt and vile argument

#Bekind

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I’m just going to go back to something that was said by TS because it’s what I truly believe as well...the last sentence specifically, so I’ll just re-quote that...

...we may have varying leg lengths, but not one of us has two full legs to stand on here...


....if we lay blame, we have to look at ourselves also because the whole thing of a discussion forum such as this...is to discuss media articles and many involving celebrities...at some point we will each have given ‘harsh words’ involving some celebrity that may have not been Caroline...but it doesn’t change that we each have to take responsibility for our own words and how we use them...rather than looking to lay blame outwardly...

I agree that on here most of us have probably gone too far with some of our comments about people on TV (I know that I have sadly) but the Media does have a responsibility to report the facts and only the facts, especially considering they have about 4 times the amount of people reading their headlines than people reading our posts on TIBB.

So when they're mocking Celebrities relentlessly, it does carry more weight, because lets face it did Caroline Flack even know that this Forum even exists? I highly doubt it.

I'm not saying that people on this Forum should be disrespectful to Celebrities or Reality TV Contestants because they're not very likely to read it, but lets face it, it'll be a very odd day if TIBB were even remotely responsible for a Celebrity to go and commit suicide.

[Kazanne]

I think we all know someone who has taken their own life, I have known at least 3 and all chose to hang themselves , I could not imagine that dark place you have to be in to even contemplate that, it must be a awful way to go, but so many chose that way , is it really that quick ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree that on here most of us have probably gone too far with some of our comments about people on TV (I know that I have sadly) but the Media does have a responsibility to report the facts and only the facts, especially considering they have about 4 times the amount of people reading their headlines than people reading our posts on TIBB.

So when they're mocking Celebrities relentlessly, it does carry more weight, because lets face it did Caroline Flack even know that this Forum even exists? I highly doubt it.

I'm not saying that people on this Forum should be disrespectful to Celebrities or Reality TV Contestants because they're not very likely to read it, but lets face it, it'll be a very odd day if TIBB were even remotely responsible for a Celebrity to go and commit suicide.

Thing is Mock the press in the UK are highly regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) and IMPRESS (Independent Monitor for the Press)

They are closely scrutinized.


But anyone can publish on Twitter and Facebook/Insta as they have no independant regulator and dont come under UK law

Thankfully this Government just announced that the UK government will give Ofcom new regulatory powers to police what is posted on the internet. The decision was made as part of a new “online harms“ plan that ministers say will protect people as they use the internet.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Her close friend Lizzy Cundy said just that live on Talk Radio last night. SO calling a dead womans friend a troll for telling the truth

makes you what?


(you can listen again if you wish) she says categorically "she was not hounded by the press". she was abused on twitter, insta and other social media just as all celebs are

Originally Posted by Twosugars

QUOTE=Kazanne;10780488]They have a lot to apologise for,

In case we forget[/QUOTE]

No of course she wasn’t hounded by the press. The Scum deleting stories after her death is completely normal.