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Macie Lightfoot · 19-03-2020, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by caprimint

I'd like to think Tony has more convincing strategies and doesn't need to rely on that because he actually... takes part in the challenges/game and isn't a floater

I mean you just need to look at Sandra's bank account and entire resume of being the only player to win twice without needing an all winners' season to accomplish it and somehow gaining more respect by being voted out in her third season to see that she takes part in The Game, which is a lot more than Challenges. I don't even know what your preferred alternative is to Sandra sitting out of Challenges -- participate in them and not do well? She's very aware of what her skill set is and if she can't contribute as much physically as other people, why would she willingly put herself out there and set herself up to fail?

Also I don't know what a floater is in the context of Survivor, especially when you're using it in a modern BBUS context which isn't even what a floater is but that's a different conversation on a different subforum at a different time of year.

Macie Lightfoot · 19-03-2020, 01:40 AM

Anyways, lots to unpack with this episode but I think the biggest thing to discuss is the Sandra boot: I'm of many feelings towards it! On one hand, very impressive move for Denise to pull off and put on her ~Survivor resume~ that we're for sure going to hear referenced next episode. I'm simultaneously infuriated and in awe because that really does take a set of balls to take someone's Idol and use it against them.

On another hand, I'm not entiiiiiiirely mad about it because Sandra has definitely gotten way too cocky for her own good. Don't get me wrong, she absolutely deserves to have an ego in the same way that Simone Biles and Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps do, but she definitely let it get to her own head too much. You could start to see it in Island of the Idols, but it was on full force tonight with her shading Denise literal minutes before getting blindsided by her. However, I am mad about how tonight was just a huge Big Movez Spectacle because nobody's moves actually made sense. Sandra was up 3-2 with an Idol and two people willing to turn on each other, and she threw it away for two Fire Tokens that don't actually have that much value? What an unspectacular way for her to go out. Definitely Sandra's worst performance As A Player but also As A Contestant because she didn't really add anything to her legacy. I can't think of any Sandra moments from this season and that's upsetting to realize.

But as impressive as Denise's move was, the means it took her to get there might not have even been worth it? She gave away a Fire Token, needlessly wasted an Idol that didn't have an expiry date, and made an unnecessarily flashy move early enough in the game where people will hold it against her and her target will grow. I get what she was going for, but I think she sacrificed too much to get her desired outcome. Also, her delivery sucked and it wasn't even A Good TV moment in the way that Idol plays are supposed to be. Like think back to Sandra pulling the Idol out of her bra in HvV or the effortless charisma and bravado of Parvati's double Idol play. All Denise did was make her mildly smug Denise face and almost stumble over her words.

MB. · 19-03-2020, 02:01 AM

My thoughts for this episode are as follows:

Michele Fitzgerald

Braden · 19-03-2020, 06:20 AM

Survivor Cancelled.

I don’t know her.

MB. · 19-03-2020, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Braden

Survivor Cancelled.

I don’t know her.

Survivor? Isn't she that bitch Destiny's Child used to sing about?

Captain.Remy · 19-03-2020, 07:25 AM

So my top 3 got eliminated in two episodes. Wow, I never sucked this much at predictions

Nick is always that guy that you put hope on so we can do something ballsy and then gets scared when it comes down to business. What an idiot!

As for Denise: well, kudos to her because that was bold to lie and backstab the Queen the way she did it. Her head is now above the water. I feel bad for Sandra, surely she deserved better than that.

Apart from Yul, I don't know who to root for. Ben seems alright, Tony is good but wtf is he doing.

caprimint · 19-03-2020, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I mean you just need to look at Sandra's bank account and entire resume of being the only player to win twice without needing an all winners' season to accomplish it and somehow gaining more respect by being voted out in her third season to see that she takes part in The Game, which is a lot more than Challenges. I don't even know what your preferred alternative is to Sandra sitting out of Challenges -- participate in them and not do well? She's very aware of what her skill set is and if she can't contribute as much physically as other people, why would she willingly put herself out there and set herself up to fail?

Also I don't know what a floater is in the context of Survivor, especially when you're using it in a modern BBUS context which isn't even what a floater is but that's a different conversation on a different subforum at a different time of year.

What do you mean by 'didn't need an all winners season'?

Surely that's the one that matters the most seeing as she's playing with all other people who have experience/are potentially as good of (or better) a player as herself?

Funny that you speak about taking part in the game when her strategy and what everybody knows her for is her #AnyoneButMe ****.

Surely if she's not good at challenges that plays a huge part because it's about the physical side of it as well as the social. You just know that if anybody else did that for at least a couple of times in a season (ESPECIALLY if they were a male) you'd never hear the end of it.

I feel like everyone's pressed that Adam can pull off a big move but Sandra, who describes herself as the Queen, can't.

Morgan. · 19-03-2020, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by caprimint

What do you mean by 'didn't need an all winners season'?

Surely that's the one that matters the most seeing as she's playing with all other people who have experience/are potentially as good of (or better) a player as herself?

Funny that you speak about taking part in the game when her strategy and what everybody knows her for is her #AnyoneButMe ****.

Surely if she's not good at challenges that plays a huge part because it's about the physical side of it as well as the social. You just know that if anybody else did that for at least a couple of times in a season (ESPECIALLY if they were a male) you'd never hear the end of it.

I feel like everyone's pressed that Adam can pull off a big move but Sandra, who describes herself as the Queen, can't.

But it means less, because in this season it guarantees someone will become a two-time winner, whereas Sandra managed to do that returning for just a regular all stars previously.

Morgan. · 19-03-2020, 08:00 AM

Anyway it was odd of them to announce the final 2 as Parv and Sandra on Day 16, surely that’s never been heard of on survivor before?

MB. · 19-03-2020, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by caprimint

You just know that if anybody else did that for at least a couple of times in a season (ESPECIALLY if they were a male) you'd never hear the end of it.

hmhm, men are notoriously oppressed on Survivor

caprimint · 19-03-2020, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgan.

But it means less, because in this season it guarantees someone will become a two-time winner, whereas Sandra managed to do that returning for just a regular all stars previously.

Well somebody else will have that title as well soon enough

She got DETHRONED!

Captain.Remy · 19-03-2020, 08:50 AM

To be honest, what a brutal boot order. All the fan favorites out the door.

The edit seems to be pointing at Michelle evicting Wendell out.

Captain.Remy · 19-03-2020, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by caprimint

She got DETHRONED!

We'll get a second win for one of them, but not in the hearts of fans. Sandra left a big mark in Survivor franchise. She's one of those people you either love, or love to hate. Now the remaining of the season will be "new school" players try to be as bold as they can so they can leave a mark, that will be nowhere near what Rob, Parvati or Sandra left as a legacy.

And Yul is literally the only "old school" winner playing right now. But good things for him is that he's really good at keeping the attention away from him.

starry · 19-03-2020, 10:11 AM

The edit seemed to suggest Wendell was going this episode, so I didn't feel very satisfied when that didn't work out.

At least the other tribe who eliminated made up for that, and Tony survived too.

Macie Lightfoot · 19-03-2020, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgan.

But it means less, because in this season it guarantees someone will become a two-time winner, whereas Sandra managed to do that returning for just a regular all stars previously.

Yes, exactly. And that’s not even mentioning the huge target that winners come in having in regular All-Star seasons.

Also I have no clue what big move Adam pulled off. Nobody’s pressed or even bothered with discussing him

Captain.Remy · 19-03-2020, 02:29 PM

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Yes, exactly. And that’s not even mentioning the huge target that winners come in having in regular All-Star seasons.

Also I have no clue what big move Adam pulled off. Nobody’s pressed or even bothered with discussing him

Yeah people here and there are trying to diminish her achievement, but she really did so great every time she appeared on screen. Yeah this time she lost for cookies and cream, but really at least she tried and she left with a move.

I hope she will be as iconic on Extinction and put Tyson to shame.