[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Tories often like to avoid thinking about their mistakes by diverting attention to a hypothetical situation involving Corbyn. He lost and is irrelevant, you're gonna need another diversion from your mistakes because you can't just keep blaming Corbyn.

You got what you wanted, shoulder the responsibility for it.

i did not vote fro Boris as you did, you have the wrong person

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think it's easy to forget the suddenness with which this has all exploded. Nobody was contemplating a situation like we have now 2 or 3 weeks ago. Only 2 months ago the Chinese were assuring us that the virus couldn't be transmitted from person to person. It's a completely new phenomenon which is not well understood and the science behind it is changing all the time. I think the very least we owe any government trying to respond to this is to cut them a bit of slack because there is no precedent for this and there is no 'right' course of action. I'm already dreading all the smug commentators who use the power of hindsight in a few months time to cast blame on various figures and tell the tale of where it all went wrong. Imo we should all just be grateful that we don't have to carry the burden of decision making over the lives of millions of people.

This post as usual from Matt pretty much nails my opinion.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Josy

This post as usual from Matt pretty much nails my opinion.

and i think most of the UK...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by reece(:

They are not immune from criticism? Especially as other countries are taking stricter lockdown measures and seeing falls in corona figures so we should follow precedent. Dither and delay (his words!) will only cost us more lives.

We have our own advisors,we don't have to follow like sheep,besides ours hasn't peaked yet so once it has our numbers well may fall too,we don't know all there is to know about it so, no one knows how many lives will be lost,I think he is doing the right thing,I am sure we will get a lockdown if people cant do as they are asked,thier fault not his.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Is there a particular reason you are only asking for my credentials as apposed to say Kazanne or MTVN or anyone else?

Because when LT is on the ropes, he scrambles for an out and he thinks that he can deny people the validity of their opinions by selectively deciding that they can't have an opinion unless they have a political science degree or are part of the cabinet.

Unless you're LT or someone he likes, then you're free to comment as you see fit.

[caprimint]

I don't really get why people blame Boris when he has repeated so many times that he is following science

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I don't really get why people blame Boris when he has repeated so many times that he is following science

Someone has to take the blame Capri ,it surely can't be our fault

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We have our own advisors,we don't have to follow like sheep,besides ours hasn't peaked yet so once it has our numbers well may fall too,we don't know all there is to know about it so, no one knows how many lives will be lost,I think he is doing the right thing,I am sure we will get a lockdown if people cant do as they are asked,thier fault not his.

No, no one knows but we have pretty good idea

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I don't really get why people blame Boris when he has repeated so many times that he is following science

Exactly. He has both scientific and medical advisors behind him and is utilising them well.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I don't really get why people blame Boris when he has repeated so many times that he is following science

Except up until last week he thought herd immunity was a good idea, so....

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i did not vote fro Boris as you did, you have the wrong person

You claim to have voted for SNP which makes little sense because you're as Tory as it gets and SNP is pretty much Scotland's anti-Tory party. Either you're lying about voting for SNP or you're pretending to hold Tory views because you want to oppose people on the forum and if this was a mostly Tory forum, you'd present yourself as a hardcore Labour supporter instead.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I don't really get why people blame Boris when he has repeated so many times that he is following science

Because he's the leader of the country and mistakes made are his to claim responsibility for, well, his and his voters that put the Tory party in a position of power.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Except up until last week he thought herd immunity was a good idea, so....

Well the herd heading up Snowdon today, and herd heading to the cornwall beaches are completely insane as are all those 'outside gym ' people.

Totally selfish bastards !

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Because when LT is on the ropes, he scrambles for an out and he thinks that he can deny people the validity of their opinions by selectively deciding that they can't have an opinion unless they have a political science degree or are part of the cabinet.

Unless you're LT or someone he likes, then you're free to comment as you see fit.

Ahh I see @mods @admin, borderline bullying tbqh, can this be sorted

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Well the herd heading up Snowdon today, and herd heading to the cornwall beaches are completely insane as are all those 'outside gym ' people.

Totally selfish bastards !

Yes the ignorance is breathtaking.

[rusticgal]

I support him...but he is too trusting. He has given this message last week in hope that people will be responsible and grown up about it...sadly there are many that are not taking it seriously. Tonight he gave another chance for people to adhere to his advice...but that may not be enough and the virus will continue to spread because of irresponsible, selfish people.
If these requests are still being ignored by Tuesday I hope he puts the entire country in Lockdown....

[The Slim Reaper]

Give it a watch.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I support him...but he is too trusting. He has given this message last week in hope that people will be responsible and grown up about it...sadly there are many that are not taking it seriously. Tonight he gave another chance for people to adhere to his advice...but that may not be enough and the virus will continue to spread because of irresponsible, selfish people.
If these requests are still being ignored by Tuesday I hope he puts the entire country in Lockdown....

lockdown will happen if people still disregard the advice, i think it will happen in the next couple of days

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I support him...but he is too trusting. He has given this message last week in hope that people will be responsible and grown up about it...sadly there are many that are not taking it seriously. Tonight he gave another chance for people to adhere to his advice...but that may not be enough and the virus will continue to spread because of irresponsible, selfish people.
If these requests are still being ignored by Tuesday I hope he puts the entire country in Lockdown....

I agree. Its time for Lockdown. People are blatantly ignoring what he says. Businesses and individuals. Its infuriating for someone like myself who is respecting his advice and adhering to it strictly to see others flaunting it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I support him...but he is too trusting. He has given this message last week in hope that people will be responsible and grown up about it...sadly there are many that are not taking it seriously. Tonight he gave another chance for people to adhere to his advice...but that may not be enough and the virus will continue to spread because of irresponsible, selfish people.
If these requests are still being ignored by Tuesday I hope he puts the entire country in Lockdown....

Nice post rusti,that's how I see him and when we go in lockdown the thick sods will be throwing their dummies out of the pram again.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Nice post rusti,that's how I see him and when we go in lockdown the thick sods will be throwing their dummies out of the pram again.

Cos they like going to t'pub innit.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You claim to have voted for SNP which makes little sense because you're as Tory as it gets and SNP is pretty much Scotland's anti-Tory party. Either you're lying about voting for SNP or you're pretending to hold Tory views because you want to oppose people on the forum and if this was a mostly Tory forum, you'd present yourself as a hardcore Labour supporter instead.

whatever makes you feel better i guess, it must be difficult for those who who are extreme on the left to support a moderate party who are currently doing things for the best of the UK and not for political points?

but that is where we are and our government needs ALL our support in this crisis

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Except up until last week he thought herd immunity was a good idea, so....

no you are not correct stop spreading mistruths

[Cherie]

even if we do lock down this is what we have to look forward to

After days of noncompliance by people refusing to stay home and venture out only for essential tasks, France on Friday sent security forces into train stations to prevent people from traveling to their vacation homes, potentially carrying the virus to the countryside or beaches where medical facilities are less robust. The popular Paris walkway along the Seine River was closed and a nightly curfew was imposed in the French Mediterranean city of Nice by Mayor Christian Estrosi, who is infected with the virus.
Florida officials closed some of the state’s most popular beaches after images of rowdy spring break college crowds appeared on TV for days amid the rising global death toll, which surpassed 13,000 on Sunday. Australia closed Sydney’s famous Bondi Beach after police were outraged at pictures of the crowds.
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday that people from 18-to-49 account for more than half of the state’s coronavirus cases, warning them “you’re not Superman, and you’re not Superwoman.”
Many people were not complying with social distancing recommendations to stay away from each other in New York City’s vast city park network ahead of a ban on congregating in groups that goes into effect Sunday night, Cuomo said.
“You can wind up hurting someone who you love, or hurting someone wholly inadvertently. Social distancing works, and you need social distancing everywhere,” Cuomo warned.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

even if we do lock down this is what we have to look forward to

After days of noncompliance by people refusing to stay home and venture out only for essential tasks, France on Friday sent security forces into train stations to prevent people from traveling to their vacation homes, potentially carrying the virus to the countryside or beaches where medical facilities are less robust. The popular Paris walkway along the Seine River was closed and a nightly curfew was imposed in the French Mediterranean city of Nice by Mayor Christian Estrosi, who is infected with the virus.
Florida officials closed some of the state’s most popular beaches after images of rowdy spring break college crowds appeared on TV for days amid the rising global death toll, which surpassed 13,000 on Sunday. Australia closed Sydney’s famous Bondi Beach after police were outraged at pictures of the crowds.
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday that people from 18-to-49 account for more than half of the state’s coronavirus cases, warning them “you’re not Superman, and you’re not Superwoman.”
Many people were not complying with social distancing recommendations to stay away from each other in New York City’s vast city park network ahead of a ban on congregating in groups that goes into effect Sunday night, Cuomo said.
“You can wind up hurting someone who you love, or hurting someone wholly inadvertently. Social distancing works, and you need social distancing everywhere,” Cuomo warned.

“You can wind up hurting someone who you love, or hurting someone wholly inadvertently. Social distancing works, and you need social distancing everywhere,” Cuomo warned.

and what is his science he is using?


the answer is NONE, based on covid 19

he is abusing science to justify his measure and that is vile