[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by leathertrumpet

no teargas was used

this thread is fake news i am afraid

every single major media outlet falsely reported that park police were unprovoked when they used “tear gas” to clear the area. If any of that were true, it might mark the first time in history that cops without gas masks launched tear gas in an area that the president of the united states easily walked through minutes later.

"after thousands of false tweets, print stories, and broadcast stories to the contrary, local journalist neal augenstein of wtop reported that a park police source said “tear gas was never used — instead smoke canisters were deployed, which don’t have an uncomfortable irritant in them.” further, the source said the crowd was dispersed because of projectiles being thrown by the “peaceful protesters” at the park police and because “peaceful protesters” had climbed on top of a structure in lafayette park that had been burned the prior night.

Sgt. Eduardo delgado, the public information officer for the park police, confirmed the agency did not use tear gas. And later this afternoon, united states park police acting chief gregory t. Monahan exploded the entire false narrative:

on monday, june 1, the uspp worked with the united states secret service to have temporary fencing installed inside lafayette park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on h street nw began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of lafayette park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.

To curtail the violence that was underway, the uspp, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on h street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, civil disturbance units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by uspp officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at lafayette park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.




https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/02...nwyfhc.twitter


i wonder what other lies have been told?

[Liam-]

I’ll take the word of the journalists and protesters on the ground who were hit with the teargas over a right wing rag tyvm

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I’ll take the word of the journalists and protesters on the ground who were hit with the teargas over a right wing rag tyvm

thats the problem you have liam, you are just believing what ever fits in with your own political narrative and not what is actually happening.

This is not good for your health


Sgt. Eduardo Delgado, the public information officer for the Park Police, confirmed the agency did not use tear gas.

If you have evidence to say he is lying then produce it here:

[user104658]

Hmm. That does sound plausible if the police weren't wearing masks (any photo receipts for that?) and yes, the gas would linger so you couldn't clear people from an area using tear gas and then immediately move through that area without protection.

However that only makes it semi fake news. I'm not really convinced that clearing a crowd with smoke grenades (which yes would also cause minor eye and chest irritation) so that the pres can take a propaganda photo makes it OK? It's still absolutely ****ed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hmm. That does sound plausible if the police weren't wearing masks (any photo receipts for that?) and yes, the gas would linger so you couldn't clear people from an area using tear gas and then immediately move through that area without protection.

However that only makes it semi fake news. I'm not really convinced that clearing a crowd with smoke grenades (which yes would also cause minor eye and chest irritation) so that the pres can take a propaganda photo makes it OK? It's still absolutely ****ed.

what is ********** up is how easy it is for lies to spread via twitter when people are interested more in likes than truth

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what is ********** up is how easy it is for lies to spread via twitter when people are interested more in likes than truth

I don't disagree with that, I think my thoughts on the media (both printed and social) are quite well aired on here but I do disagree with your general stance on the current issues in the US. There are huge problems with racial prejudice, there are huge problems with abuse of power in the US police force and in politics, there have been forever. Ignoring or refuting that entirely is disingenuous and yes... ... It's racist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't disagree with that, I think my thoughts on the media (both printed and social) are quite well aired on here but I do disagree with your general stance on the current issues in the US. There are huge problems with racial prejudice, there are huge problems with abuse of power in the US police force and in politics, there have been forever. Ignoring or refuting that entirely is disingenuous and yes... ... It's racist.

whatever it is its no excuse for robbing ps4's from Target



(when PS5 is literally a few months away)

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

whatever it is its no excuse for robbing ps4's from Target



(when PS5 is literally a few months away)

Rioting and looting is a symptom, glaring at it as an excuse to ignore the problem that lead to that symptom (I find) is usually little more than an attempt to deny that the problem exists. There's a huge underlying issue in the US that has lead to civil unrest. Some people have used the cover of civil unrest to loot/cause chaos for their own reasons - e.g. you also have the general anarchist groups joining in because they're relishing the opportunity to attack systems of power ... even though many of them have significant crossover with white power groups themselves.

This is what happens during civil unrest, it always has been and it always will be, going back to Rome and beyond.

It doesn't mean that the original cause, the frustration, and injustices that caused the initial civil unrest are not real or are not important and those issues aren't going anywhere if people can't stop themselves from being so distracted by the loud noises on the periphery that they can't (or wont - because they don't actually want to) take 10 minutes to think about that core issue.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

whatever it is its no excuse for robbing ps4's from Target



(when PS5 is literally a few months away)

No need for Trum and his pals to steals millions from Americand

[Liam-]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And the police in the pic are not wearing gas masks?

I wonder why?

[The Slim Reaper]

So if there was no Antifa there but people were pretending to be antifa, who do we suspect as the perps? Hmmmmmmmm

[Denver]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

So if there was no Antifa there but people were pretending to be antifa, who do we suspect as the perps? Hmmmmmmmm

We already know Proud Boys were involved and another White Supremacist group was posing as Antifa on Twitter

[Oliver_W]

It doesn't matter who it was, rioting and looting should be stopped.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It doesn't matter who it was, rioting and looting should be stopped.

If a group is impersonating another group to try and move the narrative of what was happening, it absolutely does matter.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If a group is impersonating another group to try and move the narrative of what was happening, it absolutely does matter.

Then that can be added to their charges, all that matters while they're looting and rioting is that they're stopped

[arista]

"police threw tear gas at them."


Fake news from Sam
Police confirmed they were pepper bombs
Not Tear Gas

[Denver]

It's becoming obvious Antifa doesnt exist and it's something Teump is using to silence his critics so he can lock them up after accusing them

[Denver]

The officers who shot over 10 peoples eyes out and almost killed a 16 year old boy need to face attempted murder charges

[bots]

Originally Posted by Denver

The officers who shot over 10 peoples eyes out and almost killed a 16 year old boy need to face manslaughter charges

they didn't kill anyone so how can they face manslaughter charges and they were using non lethal force

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they didn't kill anyone so how can they face manslaughter charges and they were using non lethal force

Rubber bullet are not meant to be shot at people so if they are shot directly at people then we have a problem

[bots]

Originally Posted by Denver

Rubber bullet are not meant to be shot at people so if they are shot directly at people then we have a problem

if they wanted to avoid trouble they shouldnt have been protesting on the street. The police could have used their guns

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

Rubber bullet are not meant to be shot at people so if they are shot directly at people then we have a problem

Sure. But for someone to face manslaughter charges, someone would need to ... die?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Sure. But for someone to face manslaughter charges, someone would need to ... die?

Anyway I just realised I put manslaughter I did actually mean attempted murder I have no idea why I put that

[Denver]

So your saying police can kill people using their right of the 1st Amendment?