[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I don’t think so no, not to the level she acted in this scenario anyway

If someone was getting out of a car filming you,white or black you would immediately be on your guard and / or threatened.....especially outside your home surely

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

What difference does it make that I’m a man?

I don't know Liam, what do you think? I would assume that in general women spend a lot more of their lives worrying about being attacked or followed by men. Do you worry about that often?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know Liam, what do you think? I would assume that in general women spend a lot more of their lives worrying about being attacked or followed by men. Do you worry about that often?

As a gay man yes I do have to worry about being followed and and attacked by people, so what’s your point?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

As a gay man yes I do have to worry about being followed and and attacked by people, so what’s your point?

That you should be able to identify with someone being physically harassed? Ask yourself would he have followed a man home?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That you should be able to identify with someone being physically harassed? Ask yourself would he have followed a man home?

I have said countless times was definitely wrong for following her home, would he have followed a man home? Idk, if he’s as much of a grifter as people say he is, I’d assume he might do

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

As a gay man yes I do have to worry about being followed and and attacked by people, so what’s your point?

Then you should definitely not think that a woman would feel less threatened by a man who followed her home and started harassing her because he's white. When you worry about being followed or attacked by a man, does his skin colour come in to it?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't know Liam, what do you think? I would assume that in general women spend a lot more of their lives worrying about being attacked or followed by men. Do you worry about that often?

Men get physically assaulted more often than women get raped.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Then you should definitely not think that a woman would feel less threatened by a man who followed her home and started harassing her because he's white. When you worry about being followed or attacked by a man, does his skin colour come in to it?

I didn’t say she’d feel less threatened if a white man followed her, I said I don’t think she’d act the same way if a white man followed her, I don’t think she’d scream that she was being ‘attacked’ at the top of her lungs, if the man was white

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I have said countless times was definitely wrong for following her home, would he have followed a man home? Idk, if he’s as much of a grifter as people say he is, I’d assume he might do

Well you have but then you justify his behaviour because he said she slurred him

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I didn’t say she’d feel less threatened if a white man followed her, I said I don’t think she’d act the same way if a white man followed her, I don’t think she’d scream that she was being ‘attacked’ at the top of her lungs, if the man was white

You serious, if a man of any description followed me home I would be screaming blue murder

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well you have but then you justify his behaviour because he said she slurred him

He had the right to confront her if she was being racist, he shouldn’t however have followed her home to do so, I don’t know how much simpler I can make it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Men get physically assaulted more often than women get raped.

Maybe, I Don't know the statistics, however in a one on one situation in most cases a woman is going to have a seriously lower chance of being able to defend herself than a man would. Its an actual thing women worry about, are you honestly saying men worry about it as much or more?

[GoldHeart]

I saw some "Karen" videos on YouTube involving racism and general angry meltdowns. These people are crazy ,and they don't even care they're being filmed and exposed

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I saw some "Karen" videos on YouTube involving racism and general angry meltdowns. These people are crazy ,and they don't even care they're being filmed and exposed

Were they followed home?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Maybe, I Don't know the statistics, however in a one on one situation in most cases a woman is going to have a seriously lower chance of being able to defend herself than a man would. Its an actual thing women worry about, are you honestly saying men worry about it as much or more?

A lot of gay men do yeah, we have to be on our toes, it’s not just a woman thing

Originally Posted by Cherie

Were they followed home?

The majority are encountered in the wild, so are perfectly acceptable to confront and document

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

A lot of gay men do yeah, we have to be on our toes, it’s not just a woman thing







The majority are encountered in the wild, so are perfectly acceptable to confront and document

Well you should absolutely understand then

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Were they followed home?

No the ones I saw involved anger over parking and anger over someone stretching on some steps, really pathetic petty stuff .

Oh and there was one where a guy was just stood filming and a "Karen" decided to tell him he's not allowed to stand there and film : they went back and forth then it cut off .

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I saw some "Karen" videos on YouTube involving racism and general angry meltdowns. These people are crazy ,and they don't even care they're being filmed and exposed

You should listen to some early hip hop music...start with tim dog

[Toy Soldier]

The problem with all of this justification, is that examples of extreme individuals are being passed around on social media so that they start to seem like that's "likely" or "normal" and are then used to categorise & harass people who have nothing to do with any of it. The whole thing is infused with aggression and gang mentality and it's not a good look on anyone.

I think for me, to answer the thrwat topic at this point... The nicknaming and stereotyping is needless, damaging, and yet another symptom of banal social media group-think and tribalism. Bin social media. Bin the name-calling. Fling all of it to ****, its the worst of human nature in digital form.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

A lot of gay men do yeah, we have to be on our toes, it’s not just a woman thing



The majority are encountered in the wild, so are perfectly acceptable to confront and document

Actually I think it should be an offence to film people without consent but that is another issue

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No the ones I saw involved anger over parking and anger over someone stretching on some steps, really pathetic petty stuff .

Oh and there was one where a guy was just stood filming and a "Karen" decided to tell him he's not allowed to stand there and film : they went back and forth then it cut off .

Would you be happy to be filmed without your consent?

say if you lay injured in the road, would you be happy people were filming you for likes rather than calling an ambulance, because that is where we are at right now?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Actually I think it should be an offence to film people without consent but that is another issue

I thi k the general rules are fine as they are but I think they should be more strictly enforced when they're broken.

The general rule is that it's OK to film someone when there's no expectation of privacy. So a public high street, a shop, a bar... Clearly public spaces and its reasonable to expect people to behave like they ARE being watched at all times.

Following someone home and filming them in the street outside their home to post online quite obviously does not fall under that category, and should be taken very seriously. Whether it's being done by the press (as it often is) or the Twitter paparazzi.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Men get physically assaulted more often than women get raped.

There is absolutely no way you can prove that to be true since the only stats available are the attacks that have been reported, there's plenty of victims who haven't come forward for a plethora of reasons.

[James]

Twitter has been really wild recently - celebrities being cancelled left, right and centre and accusations being levelled all over the place.

One of the main problems is a rush to judgement... as well as an unreliable standard of information.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There is absolutely no way you can prove that to be true since the only stats available are the attacks that have been reported, there's plenty of victims who haven't come forward for a plethora of reasons.

I would think the biggest reason being, that they started it.