[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The same crime or just a similar type show Amy?

Literally tons of other crimes but iirc he talks about the french family because I remember the dogs being killed

[Amy Jade]

Oh and the weird step dad definitely had his wife killed, Patrice.

He hired a hitman because she told him she was leaving him. I can't remember where, but I read about it ages ago and the reason Patrice wasn't herself that day was because she had told a friend a few days earlier she was leaving him.

Also I noticed that he claimed to sleep with her ashes because he was grieving yet you literally see him open the ashes for the very first time on screen, did he as bollocks sleep with a box out of sentiment and then open it up to show it off on tv.

[Ammi]

...I completely forgot about the story of Alonzo Brooks as well...and the apparent ‘racist town’....not one person coming forward...

[UserSince2005]

I'm gonna solve all these "mysteries" for yall now.

Guy fallen from roof top - the company gone done it to get rid of him as he knew to much. they set it up to make it look like he jumped.
Salon owner dead in the woods - She got killed by some random and dumped, poor woman.
Frenchie done bad - He ran off and is living somewhere nice now. Bastard.
Black man killed at party - Hate crime, body dumped in the river, not really sure what the mystery was here. Corupt police who dont take a black mans death seriously, yes.
UFOs - Happened so long ago their memories have run away with themselves, probably some military activity at the time that that explains the lights, the rest is their imagination.
Nasty Mum - No mystery here other than why the **** they didnt lock the bitch up.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

I'm gonna solve all these "mysteries" for yall now.

Guy fallen from roof top - the company gone done it to get rid of him as he knew to much. they set it up to make it look like he jumped.
Salon owner dead in the woods - She got killed by some random and dumped, poor woman.
Frenchie done bad - He ran off and is living somewhere nice now. Bastard.
Black man killed at party - Hate crime, body dumped in the river, not really sure what the mystery was here. Corupt police who dont take a black mans death seriously, yes.
UFOs - Happened so long ago their memories have run away with themselves, probably some military activity at the time that that explains the lights, the rest is their imagination.
Nasty Mum - No mystery here other than why the **** they didnt lock the bitch up.

...JessicaFletcherSince2005.....

[Niamh.]

I could only get through half the alien one

Just watched the last one now, how is that woman still free and raising Lenas son ugh

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

...I know, Lena’s story is particularly heart wrenching...I can’t imagine what it’s like for her sisters to feel certain that their mother killed her and is also raising her son...I read ..(..because you know me, I like to read more about stuff..)...that even when Lena was alive, her mother used to often pretend that Colter was hers...which is a really odd thing to do...if people do evil things, we like to believe in a karma, don’t we...but this must feel to her sisters, like she’s been rewarded for killing Lena...I also read that Sandy Home schooled Colter, so he was fairly much isolated from other influences in his life...if she made her daughter help her cover up her killing and then killed her, she’s capable of anything...really disturbing. ..

[Ninastar]

I just caught up. That last ep is crazy. Poor Lena

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The note was nothing, certainly wasn't a suicide note

I saw this on twitter, not sure if it means anything but the note hidden behind a computer is very odd

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I saw this on twitter, not sure if it means anything but the note hidden behind a computer is very odd

Thats a real stretch.

[LukeB]

I just watched the second episode and omg the husband is so awful,creepy and quite disturbing. I do think he did it or had something to do with it. Him carrying her skull and sleeping with her ashes like a teddy bear

I feel for the son and i find it so sad he was kicked out the house on the same day his mum went missing and he doesn’t have her ashes or family photos.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I just watched the second episode and omg the husband is so awful,creepy and quite disturbing. I do think he did it or had something to do with it. Him carrying her skull and sleeping with her ashes like a teddy bear

I feel for the son and i find it so sad he was kicked out the house on the same day his mum went missing and he doesn’t have her ashes or family photos.

Spoiler:

...having the undertakers lay out her bones as accurately as possible to ‘resemble’ her...and yeah, it really was heartbreaking for her son and he showed a real coldness toward him...

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Spoiler:

...having the undertakers lay out her bones as accurately as possible to ‘resemble’ her...and yeah, it really was heartbreaking for her son and he showed a real coldness toward him...

Spoiler:

yeah that also made me feel creeped out by him

I think him letting no one see the ashes and him sleeping with them is him saying Patrice is all mine now since some of her family said he was jealous of others getting her attention. I also find it fishy he made out the marriage was great but Patrice's family said she was unhappy and mentioned a divorce.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Spoiler:

yeah that also made me feel creeped out by him

I think him letting no one see the ashes and him sleeping with them is him saying Patrice is all mine now since some of her family said he was jealous of others getting her attention. I also find it fishy he made out the marriage was great but Patrice's family said she was unhappy and mentioned a divorce.

Spoiler:

...yeah it feels as though he was a complete obsessive and killed her so that he could ‘keep her forever’...if he couldn’t have her, no one could, type thing...the type of thing from a movie...(...and obviously some real lives as well...I loved the whole series but they are very upsetting as well, that no one was ever brought to justice for these awful crimes.....I can’t imagine as a family, how you live with something like that...

[LukeB]

Alonzo's death was definitely a hate crime but i feel there's more to it to be honest! i'm confused why his friends left him there knowing the town is known for it's racism, him being the only black person at the party and hearing the racist slurs...maybe it could have been a set up Also the police didn't take the case that seriously but i just heard the case has been re-opened which is good to hear since it shouldn't have been closed in the first place.

I do think the body was moved because it's strange the police couldn't find a body but it took the family 30 minutes after finally being allowed to search.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Alonzo's death was definitely a hate crime but i feel there's more to it to be honest! i'm confused why his friends left him there knowing the town is known for it's racism, him being the only black person at the party and hearing the racist slurs...maybe it could have been a set up Also the police didn't take the case that seriously but i just heard the case has been re-opened which is good to hear since it shouldn't have been closed in the first place.

I do think the body was moved because it's strange the police couldn't find a body but it took the family 30 minutes after finally being allowed to search.

Yeah that one to me didn't even seem like a big mystery, just really really shoddy and disinterested Police work. Really glad to hear the case is being reopened though, i really hope his family get some kind of justice

[Shaun]

Seen the first three episodes now and whilst they're all sad, there's something about the Nantes story that just left me chilled and a bit broken tbh... the idea of so meticulously and carefully planning your wife & kids' murders but unable to get a damn normal job to pay the bills... not just in a fit of rage, either, over two separate nights... inviting the "heir" home whilst his brothers and sister and mother lay beneath him... ugh it just completely grossed me out.

Personally I think he did commit suicide but I wouldn't know the ins and outs of hiding your own corpse without it being able to be found. I know he has an "unremarkable appearance" but it's a crime as recent as 2011, someone is bound to have recognised him by now.

In June 2013, a body was found 20 kilometres (12 miles) from where Xavier Dupont de Ligonnčs was last seen. An autopsy was carried out and did not completely exclude the possibility of the body being that of Xavier.[73] The prosecutor in Draguignan, Danielle Drouy-Ayral, stated "at this moment in time, it is not the body of Xavier Dupont de Ligonnčs", without providing any more details to explain this declaration

(I know this quote basically means "it could be anyone's body" but still...)

I'm also slightly sad because the oldest son was a dreamboat but shut up

[Ammi]

...yeah, there felt as though there was no emotion at all attached to the killings...that it was all totally cold and devoid of anything...he shot each one twice, so he left no doubt that none would survive and he laid them in a ritual, type way...these were the people that he’d shared himself with completely...personally, I don’t think he did commit suicide...I think that’s something he would have done at the time so that the family were still together of because of guilt weight or whatever...I think he lives out there somewhere..(..or did, he may have died now, but not took his own life..)...and possibly ‘replaced’ them with another family to enable him to erase them from his head...I also do wonder...did he kill his father to inherit to clear debts etc...and then found out there was no inheritance...

[Ammi]

...I guess why I really, really don’t think he would have taken his own life...his friends talked of pride of French families , such as his...but his actions weren’t the actions of someone whose pride would have found it difficult to look into the faces of his wife and children and feel as though in some way he had failed them/...couldn’t provide financially etc...his actions to me were extreme ego, extreme self above all else, of extreme self preservation...he would kill them/dispose of them and he would have a life, he was that cold, is what I think...I just can’t imagine for one moment he would have felt that he ever deserved death after ‘killing so that he could live’.../...so that he could invent himself somewhere else...

[Shaun]

I just don't see it as anything other than killing them (and then later himself) out of shame, to be honest... the attention to detail, concocting a story that they've all gone into hiding, never want to be communicated by their friends again, it all snowballs into this sense of wanting to close the family name up for good and I don't really how you go about that with a frame of mind that has an open light at the end of the tunnel for Xavier to start anew as someone else. I think the shame and the guilt of how his nobility has fallen means an exceptional end.

Watched the next two episodes and both were frustrating. I agree with whoever said the UFO one shouldn't have been included... partially because it's so far from thematic semblance to the other five episodes, partially because it was 50 years ago with no footage and is thus the recollections of some children and one adult at the time. Nobody else saw it? No other town folklore? Just these 5 interviewees? Okay then.

And the Alonzo case is just saddening and sickening in equal measure. I couldn't feel any sense of empathy for his friends just sitting there and lazily lamenting "I wish I hadn't left him there..." because... it's so ****ing obvious to me that you would never do that. I get that teens and adolescents are irresponsible and make dumb decisions, whatever, but if I took a black friend to a house where people were freely calling him the N word and antagonising him, I would get him the **** out of there. It was 2004, not 1954. I don't necessarily think any of them were in on it, but I can understand why some would interpret their nonchalance and paper-thin "regret" as such.

But then a strong doubt lingers in my mind over whether he was attacked at all... maybe it was just an accidental drowning, maybe he hit his head and fell, maybe he had alcohol poisoning... and that's the most frustrating thing about the episode; the medical examiner is so ****ing clueless I don't understand how he can have the nerve to charge people for that sort of insight.

[Ammi]

....I think there are more theories DuPont killings than any of the other unsolved’s but that’s understandable because of his disappearance...there are some sightings and tbh I don’t understand those...(...as any possibility of being him...)...because they were here in the U.K. or in the USA...(..Chicago, I believe..)...but outside of France, how many people actually would have been aware of this....I mean, obviously it was a huge story of something particularly gruesome and would have been very well known with world policing organisations...?..but he wasn’t really a known person, in the way that Lord Lucan was...so I personally doubt that any of those sightings were actual...

...one of the theories, Shaun..?..is that he didn’t kill them...but that he had been caught up with people that he perhaps owed money to or whatever...some ‘ruthless people’...and that it was a ‘hit’ on him and his family...but that his body was elsewhere so to look like exactly how it has....anyways, maybe you are right, maybe he did take his life...it’s very, very sad...an entire family with so much life to live and life to love and each other to share it all with...../..heartbreaking, I found that one quite difficult to let go of...(...and probably still do..)....


...Alfonzo’s case was re-opened this year and his body was exhumed...it’s funny how his body wasn’t there and then it was...one of the theories with that is that it had been kept in a freezer....?...it’s like a whole collective of people all agreed to silence...I doubt there will be closure, even with the new investigations...but I hope there is, for his mom, a life sentence for her....

[LukeB]

Volume 2 is out 19th October

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Volume 2 is out 19th October

Oh great, thanks Luke

[LukeB]

Youtube video

[Babayaro.]

This is on my list!