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I do find it interesting that there was a fairly steady plateau in new cases at one point but not really a corresponding plateau in death figures in the following weeks, which you would expect there to be.

I also thing it's fascinating how clearly you can see the inconsistencies in death reporting based on day of the week. Weeneds are obvious and you can actually "see" bank holidays in there as well (a 3-day dip instead of the regular 2-day dip).
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The main thing is whether hospitalisations and then deaths start increasing again.
Looking at the graph, it appears that deaths only really start to increase dramatically once the number of hospitalisations per day become too overwhelming (2,000+). We can only hope that the current steady increase in cases will make deaths easier to avoid.
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The infected are mostly young people at the moment as they are the ones having the parties, ignoring social distancing etc etc. There is then a lag until they then infect their parents/grandparents. The death rate vs infection will remain quite low until that lag kicks in. Thats the basic worry with any uptick in infection
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The infected are mostly young people at the moment as they are the ones having the parties, ignoring social distancing etc etc. There is then a lag until they then infect their parents/grandparents. The death rate vs infection will remain quite low until that lag kicks in. Thats the basic worry with any uptick in infection
It's almost as though, when people start getting together specifically to socialise in enclosed spaces in groups, having a drink and with no mask requirement, social distancing goes completely out the window and there's a resulting increase in infection rates.

If only there was some way we could have predicted this. If only the pub quizzes weren't so sublime that people would just break the locks and pub anyway if they were closed. Alas, we have to face the reality. Is it my round? Anyone for scampi fries?
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...the department for education have said no maskingness for school staff because it’s not conducive to teaching...so as the schools go back one by one and with the absence of masks and with full classroom quota’s, it’ll be interesting to see the sources of infection...and the higher risk areas ...
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Australia you also cannot be outdoors in evenings/nights, unless you got a valid reason so no partying, no unnecessary socializing


in Netherlands, our Labour party (PVDA) wants the covid measures meeting to be sooner, rather this week than the planned date of August 12th, he wants them to get back from holiday since our new cases has been increasing quite rapidly again and Asscher said we need to do something about this before it is too late again
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It's almost as though, when people start getting together specifically to socialise in enclosed spaces in groups, having a drink and with no mask requirement, social distancing goes completely out the window and there's a resulting increase in infection rates.

If only there was some way we could have predicted this. If only the pub quizzes weren't so sublime that people would just break the locks and pub anyway if they were closed. Alas, we have to face the reality. Is it my round? Anyone for scampi fries?
If you watched Countryfile yesterday they touched on the pubs being opened, and the whole host of businesses that rely on them being opened, distilleries, craft brewers, farmers ....its not just whey hey lets get a pint, there are livelihoods at stake here

better for young people to gather in a pub where their details are taken rather than in a field with a bottle of cider or at a rave
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Also the uptick of infection in areas has been identified as people not social distancing in friends homes, the pubs are not the problem no matter how fixated some people are on them
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yes summer or winter does not matter with this virus

i had first thought things would be calmer in summer here, but i also was wrong in that i admit

so a forever lockdown for time being until covid-19 has been completely wiped out and it is safe again would've been a better option

sorry about businesses who might suffer, but Health comes first i think
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Nobel Prize-winning geneticist and cell biologist Sir Paul Nurse, who is director of the Francis Crick Institute research centre, has criticised the UK government's communication with the public.

Speaking to the BBC, he said the public should be treated like adults - with more transparency.

"I think we need greater openness in the decision-making. It sometimes seems somewhat shrouded in secrecy," he said.

"And not only that, but better communication of what's happening. Treat the public as adults.

"I'll give one example. At the height of the infection I was at a select committee in April and a public health person, I think it was - they may have been from the Department for Health and Social Care - was saying all the testing needed for the NHS was in place.

"Yet we showed at the Francis Crick, at that time, 45% of front-line healthcare staff were infected and they were not being tested because capacity was inadequate.

"Now, that isn't a way to earn trust from the public. We need openness, transparency, scrutiny, and a leadership of people taking responsibility for the decision-making, and we need it now."
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The infected are mostly young people at the moment as they are the ones having the parties, ignoring social distancing etc etc. There is then a lag until they then infect their parents/grandparents. The death rate vs infection will remain quite low until that lag kicks in. Thats the basic worry with any uptick in infection


Simple then .. curfew for the under 30’s and they should be made to sleep in the garden shed or garage to protect any elders


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...the department for education have said no maskingness for school staff because it’s not conducive to teaching...so as the schools go back one by one and with the absence of masks and with full classroom quota’s, it’ll be interesting to see the sources of infection...and the higher risk areas ...


Yes ... sadly some of us will be part of this terrifying experiment


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yes protect the elderly, house arrest for all under 30's


some basic simple rules No Partying (No House Party's either), No Socializing
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some basic simple rules no partying (no house party's either), no socializing

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https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-week-12041300


Costing around Ł100 a new test.


Loads of testing machines

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53632043

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With all these new rules and possible curfews etc how on Earth are the all ready stretched police supposed to ‘police’ all the extra situations ?


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https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...-scaled-up-40/

online shopping surge boosts PostNL since coronavirus crisis, sales up to 100 million, more profits than ever before


https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...-19-flares-up/

Belgium declared a no go to 3 dutch provinces Noord-Holland, Zuid-Holland, Zeeland
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