[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To claim that nothing has changed in recent history (unless you somehow think "recent" means 10 years and not 50) is just verifiably not true, and the things that have changed the most have changed because of mainstream acceptance and support. Now... I don't particularly LIKE that being the case. Having to convince the bulk public of something to get change, when the bulk public is a heaving sack of idiots, is extremely frustrating.

Like I said though it's not really an argument that needs to be had round in circles, it's theory-based and if you're right then the current gradual slide towards bolstered righteous indignation will result in meaningful change. Give me a nudge when that happens.

Give me an example, one example of something that changed due to a gradual societal shift that was not spurned by some catalyst, movement or protest.

Did we all wake up one morning and want equal rights for many groups? decent housing? Fair wages?