[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Toy Soldier]

I'm not sure prioritising schools over pubs is a good idea. It doesn't seem to have been very well thought through.

[Ammi]

...they knew enough to re-open pubs/restaurants etc, it was time they said...open and they shall come...and one by one they closed...


...they knew enough to re-open schools...it was time they said....


...as Boris turned to Dominic and whispered...’..this herd immunity....’....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...they knew enough to re-open pubs/restaurants etc, it was time they said...open and they shall come...and one by one they closed...


...they knew enough to re-open schools...it was time they said....


...as Boris turned to Dominic and whispered...’..this herd immunity....’....

Now Look
you are in the Teaching Industry
keep the kids separated, somehow
it's down to teachers to take control.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...they knew enough to re-open pubs/restaurants etc, it was time they said...open and they shall come...and one by one they closed...


...they knew enough to re-open schools...it was time they said....


...as Boris turned to Dominic and whispered...’..this herd immunity....’....

I think there's a lot of substance in your post Ammi.

I really believe dangerous games, with NOT the right planning at all.
Are being played with lives.

The government cannot just instruct and then not plan and in fact not lead.
Words are cheap and easy.

They're good on those, not on the right and proper and safe action however.

Your post mentions herd immunity, I think that was one of their plans at the start.
It may well be again now.

I'll keep me and mine safe, my way.
Not this government's dangerous game playing way.

It's said people would have died anyway.
Deaths are overexagerrated.
In fact they're under estimated, the believed figure is more like over 60,000 deaths not 46,000.

Yes people have terminal illnesses which will one day, months or years time take their lives.
Yes pneumonia can kill normally, however many survive treated quickly, when antibiotics kick in.
My own Grandparent survived pneumonia many years ago, in his 80s.

The vulnerably sick, with health conditions and even terminal illnesses, are going to lose their lives due to those illnesses.
However the point is, they are losing their lives BEFORE their time once they get this detestable and cruel virus.

To those who love their families and friends, extra weeks, months or even years are very precious..
To say these deaths are because of those other health conditions, and not hastened by contracting this virus, is insulting in the very least to those fighting to survive despite those other health conditions.
It's insulting too, to those left bereaved, mourning the losses of those loved ones that covid has helped end the lives of sooner than was to be.

This virus is gross.
It's time we got the full truth on all figures and also were shown the advice given, with what advice has been accepted only by government and what advice has been discarded.
Also why any advice is discarded too.

Just because it maybe didn't fit the government agenda doesn't make it right to discard it.

Hundreds are still losing their lives due to contracting this virus every week.
Therefore their lives taken before their time.
That all happening still at this time in England particularly is shocking.

Oops, that's in my view before I get into bother or ridiculed for generalising.

[bitontheslide]

Alternatively, we could all live our lives, taking care to protect ourselves and stop dwelling on negatives constantly, which as it happens, is a proven unhealthy pastime

[Ammi]

...one of the crazy things is...?....the pubs and restaurants were already ‘sacrificed’ at the beginning of June...and through June and July, were they not...?...they weren’t open then when Boris admitted that it may not be possible for all schools to open for all pupils at all times etc because of serious concerns for staff/pupil/parent safety...he couldn’t ‘make it fit’ no matter how much he told us it would fit because it didn’t fit and that’s the sum and measure of it...now school opening time is approaching, in Scotland, any day now....and apparently in this unchanging world that we’re constantly told to adapt to..?..it now fits...allegedly...

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Alternatively, we could all live our lives, taking care to protect ourselves and stop dwelling on negatives constantly, which as it happens, is a proven unhealthy pastime

Yes, I think it’s the way forward for me at least.
My daughter is home for the first time in 6 months, she came in with a visor, no thanks, I wanted a proper hug as well thank you very much.
Lots of sanitiser at the ready.
For the first time ever, both my kids and their partners are here for a family meal later on, can’t wait.

[arista]

[lime]

I think the biggest mistake that world leaders is use the word Lockdown".When we in the west use it we think of China and doors being welded to keep them in.I live in Kildare in Ireland that is under "Lockdown"Went shopping with my husband Sat morning..wore facemascks...washed our hands.then came home ..had some lunch ..marinated the meat for our later BBQ,then got back in the car with our youngest child "15" and our dogs ,spent 2hrs in Donadea forest...came home had a few beer and a BBQ..normal weekend for us ...but then the word "Lockdown in " used

[Nicky91]

i agree the word ''lockdown'' is used too often, while in some places it isn't really a real lockdown

also for my opinion too, here in my country too far too little measures, and leaving local mayors, city councils with those responsibilities (hope i spelled that one correct) which is wrong, for something like this serious, governments need to step things up and put health of all people under their first priorities

the reopening in summer was wrong, we know this now however in their defense those governments also didn't know this beforehand of course, since we know so little about this virus, but that makes this very dangerous and reopening was careless/reckless to think about economies over health

[lime]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i agree the word ''lockdown'' is used too often, while in some places it isn't really a real lockdown

also for my opinion too, here in my country too far too little measures, and leaving local mayors, city councils with those responsibilities (hope i spelled that one correct) which is wrong, for something like this serious, governments need to step things up and put health of all people under their first priorities

the reopening in summer was wrong, we know this now however in their defense those governments also didn't know this beforehand of course, since we know so little about this virus, but that makes this very dangerous and reopening was careless/reckless to think about economies over health

sadly Nicky

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i agree the word ''lockdown'' is used too often, while in some places it isn't really a real lockdown

also for my opinion too, here in my country too far too little measures, and leaving local mayors, city councils with those responsibilities (hope i spelled that one correct) which is wrong, for something like this serious, governments need to step things up and put health of all people under their first priorities

the reopening in summer was wrong, we know this now however in their defense those governments also didn't know this beforehand of course, since we know so little about this virus, but that makes this very dangerous and reopening was careless/reckless to think about economies over health

Strong points there Nicky.
I agree.

Your last paragraph very strong on its content particularly.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i agree the word ''lockdown'' is used too often, while in some places it isn't really a real lockdown

also for my opinion too, here in my country too far too little measures, and leaving local mayors, city councils with those responsibilities (hope i spelled that one correct) which is wrong, for something like this serious, governments need to step things up and put health of all people under their first priorities

the reopening in summer was wrong, we know this now however in their defense those governments also didn't know this beforehand of course, since we know so little about this virus, but that makes this very dangerous and reopening was careless/reckless to think about economies over health

I am more than shocked at listening to some here in Co.Kildare..the use of the word "scamdemic" is quite common...186 new cases in Ireland yesterday 110 was in Kildare i trully don't get how folk can be so complaciante

[lime]

I am no fan of Boris..But he is right when he says"Whack a mole"
Stamp this virus out when it spikes

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lime

I am more than shocked at listening to some here in Co.Kildare..the use of the word "scamdemic" is quite common...186 new cases in Ireland yesterday 110 was in Kildare i trully don't get how folk can be so complaciante

I can’t understand the complacency, the latest suggestion here is people who went on holiday abroad and may have to quarantine should be compensated...yes take the risk...go on holiday and you will be paid to sit at home for another two weeks by those who didn’t risk going away

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I can’t understand the complacency, the latest suggestion here is people who went on holiday abroad and may have to quarantine should be compensated...yes take the risk...go on holiday and you will be paid to sit at home for another two weeks by those who didn’t risk going away

Truly frustating Cherie. because some have no cop on then we will have to suffer

[bitontheslide]

do people not understand that they are being played by the press to be outraged

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lime

Truly frustating Cherie. because some have no cop on then we will have to suffer

Farce at its finest.. also they want the government to make a decision in France but if the numbers don’t warrant it how can they do that...maybe ask the public to make a decision for themselves and accept the consequences, seems that’s too much to ask ...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

do people not understand that they are being played by the press to be outraged

I actually thought it was a trolling press headline then saw someone on the news this morning actually suggesting it

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

do people not understand that they are being played by the press to be outraged

so you're basically one of those who think covid is fake news or a joke?


that the press is making all of this up?

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Farce at its finest.. also they want the government to make a decision in France but if the numbers don’t warrant it how can they do that...maybe ask the public to make a decision for themselves and accept the consequences, seems that’s too much to ask ...

That's it Cherie...It is just common sense .If they didn't put us in Laois ,Offfaly and Kildare in "Lockdown" then Q's would have been asked later why didn't they.crazy why can't adults take their own responspility

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lime

That's it Cherie...It is just common sense .If they didn't put us in Laois ,Offfaly and Kildare in "Lockdown" then Q's would have been asked later why didn't they.crazy why can't adults take their own responspility

What makes me laugh is stay at home on furlough...yes we will listen to the government


Social distance, don’t visit numerous families, stay away from crowds, use you common sense...nah not having that