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10-08-2020, 04:14 PM | #401 | |||
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10-08-2020, 04:16 PM | #402 | |||
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The people coming over on boats can still claim asylum, even if they enter illegally, once they claim asylum, they’re no longer illegal, that’s the law.
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10-08-2020, 04:17 PM | #403 | |||
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And people are defending them because not everybody sees them as an ‘infestation’ or an ‘invasion’, not everyone sees them as awful people because of where they come from or what they look like, some people just see them as people looking for a better life, it’s really that simple.
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10-08-2020, 04:23 PM | #404 | |||
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So it wasn't a joke?
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10-08-2020, 04:24 PM | #405 | |||
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We're a tiny and over populated island with virtually every service being stretched, there's no obligation to be the sanctuary for the world. |
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11-08-2020, 12:12 AM | #406 | |||
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11-08-2020, 10:37 AM | #407 | |||
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[Migrants cheer 'UK' as several boats cross English Channel
in one morning Sky News correspondent Ali Fortescue describes an "extraordinary morning" as she encounters Sudanese and Iranian migrants.] https://news.sky.com/story/migrants-...rning-12046971 |
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11-08-2020, 10:38 AM | #408 | |||
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11-08-2020, 10:52 AM | #409 | |||
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11-08-2020, 10:57 AM | #410 | |||
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Then BBC AM did a day now its SkyNewsHD AM turn. Last edited by arista; 11-08-2020 at 10:58 AM. |
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11-08-2020, 10:58 AM | #411 | |||
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These crossings have been going on for decades, so what is it in this moment, with this government, that the country feels it can fall in line with far right ideology.
This crap has been on BNP leaflets for as long as the BNP have been around. Disappointing to see media now push these same talking points to generate a crisis.
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11-08-2020, 11:00 AM | #412 | |||
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11-08-2020, 11:02 AM | #413 | |||
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Every media channel is now reporting on this crisis so well done to nigel farage for highlighting this awful problem
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11-08-2020, 11:07 AM | #414 | |||
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It's ok to align with the EDL and BNP if a perceived problem exists? The historical excuse of all regimes that want to harm minority groups is to play on a crisis.
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11-08-2020, 11:20 AM | #415 | |||
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My issue is it is survival of the fittest
There are very few young woman using this method as it is too dangerous for them to travel alone or they have young children or elderly relatives that they cannot leave behind These guys are unencumbered for the most part, I do feel for the ones who have family here but the majority do not I think most people appreciate they want to improve their lives, but when people in the UK say well I want to hold on to the standard of living I have got, rather than see it drop due to overcrowding, lack of social housing etc, they are called racists, how does that marry up
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11-08-2020, 11:33 AM | #416 | |||
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thats just bollocks and you know it. The not wanting ILLEGAL entrants into the uk is not an extremist view, and making accusations like that only strengthens peoples resolve and results in votes like brexit.
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11-08-2020, 11:36 AM | #417 | |||
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Thatcher used "managed decline" to describe her policy towards the north and Liverpool in particular in the 80's, the government just decided for purely ideological reasons that we all had it too good, and their mates paying taxes to keep it that way was too much of a load for them to bear.
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11-08-2020, 11:39 AM | #418 | |||
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It's fcuking hilarious when people claim that pointing out their bigotry is the reason for all of societies ills. Take some responsibility for your own damn opinions. He made me do it, miss, is weak as piss to be honest.
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11-08-2020, 12:13 PM | #419 | |||
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Chris Philp MP
just spoke live on SkyNewsHD in Paris. He is making new funds to cut this route. |
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11-08-2020, 12:21 PM | #420 | |||
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you will get plenty brown British people complaining about it, not just whites
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'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages' Last edited by Cherie; 11-08-2020 at 12:22 PM. |
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11-08-2020, 12:30 PM | #421 | |||
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The government made a choice to attack the real indicators of healthy society, freezing pay, stripping services, reducing police numbers, reducing healthcare professionals numbers. Nothing that is happening in this country in 2020 is because of migrants crossing the channel, apart from the justification this provides people to align with extremism.
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11-08-2020, 01:37 PM | #422 | |||
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Marina Hyde
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...P=share_btn_tw What a pleasure to have the news agenda still dictated by former drivetime radio presenter Nigel Farage, who resists the suggestion that it’s time to declare an emergency in his career by announcing: “It’s time to declare an emergency in the Channel.” Initially it was to be hoped there would be only one wave of Farage before a cure was discovered, but scientists have long accepted that we will simply learn to have to live with him, albeit in slightly diminished form with each outing, until he has finally infected so many layers of our culture that he is in effect spent. Think of it as a turd immunity strategy. In his current strain, Farage presents as a sort of distress voyeur, hanging about the Dover coastal area with a cameraphone and practising what he imagines to be some kind of haute journalisme by filming the arrival or rescue of any migrant boats he manages to spot. I’m afraid police felt obliged to speak to him about his behaviour during lockdown. Yet compulsively he returns. One can only imagine the quickening in the Farage journalistic loins when, after several hours of fruitless sea perving, he finally spots a small craft full of desperate people coming into his sights. Yes! I’ve got a bite! The dog has seen the rabbit! Perhaps Nigel imagines himself to be a sort of lone special forces operative – special farces would be more accurate – a Mittyish pose that allows him to deploy expressions like “oh-five-hundred hours” and “I’ve got eyes on a target”. And doubtless various other quasi-military phrases he would have been able to use for real during the second world war that he so pantingly fetishises. Or rather, he would have, had he not been born nearly two decades after it ended, chosen to pursue an extremely indifferent City career in commodities trading instead of military service, and not been given to appearing at far-right German rallies. I don’t want to go out on a limb here, but I suspect the latter in particular would have been a bit of a dealbreaker for British military recruiting sergeants in 1939. So here we are in 2020, with Farage repeatedly talking about “invasions” and “beach landings” – another reminder of the essential truth about him. Namely, that had he lived through the time of his precious war, he would have been so terrified by the scale of its daily realities and so incapable of keeping calm about any of it, that he would have had to be interned for spreading panic. “Invasion” is a ridiculous turn of phrase for what is happening in the Channel, designed to do absolutely nothing to address the problem and absolutely everything to whip up frenzy. Needless to say, Boris Johnson’s government is yet another administration so terrified of being outflanked on the right by Farage that they tack towards him. Furthermore, this is Johnson’s government’s favourite kind of crisis, which is to say it is not one. It involves relatively very small numbers of people, drives vastly bigger numbers of its base mad – but in a helpful way – and is a useful distraction from any number of real crises that it is failing to deal with. Things like the spectacularly hopeless U-turning on test and trace, or not having a post-transition Brexit deal, or treating a generation of children as an afterthought to the pub trade. These and many other ongoing horror stories are hugely more significant. Exactly how far down the government’s list of priorities events in the Channel should currently be is a matter of opinion, but it certainly wouldn’t be breaking the top 10 any time soon. So yes, Johnson himself couldn’t be less interested in this sort of thing – he couldn’t be less interested in anything much at all, really – but understands its value as a diversion. Thus yesterday the prime minister took to the airwaves to brand migrant attempts to cross the Channel “a very bad and stupid and dangerous and criminal thing to do”. When you consider that refugees are in the majority young men sent in desperation by their families, it DOES seem strange that they prefer to get their stupid criminal kicks by doing bad things like making perilous sea crossings. They would surely be much better off donning black tie to smash up an Oxford restaurant. Bafflingly, this wasn’t the line Priti Patel went with yesterday on a visit to Dover. The home secretary is now apparently deemed such an interview risk that her trip was covered by a personal videographer as opposed to news crews. Inevitably, she judges the military and their hardware the answer. RAF planes, Royal Navy ships … it’s very “all the gear, no idea”, like using a Formula One car to pop down to the shops. Indeed, in this same martial spirit, Patel has “issued an ultimatum to France”, giving our nearest neighbours the best opportunity to participate in a diversionary conflict since the Franco-Prussian war. A war footing would certainly suit our own Otto von Jizzmark, Dominic Cummings, who seems cut out for pitching into simple enemies like “the EU”, but stuck on rather bigger tasks like “running a government” and “doing your own childcare even when you’re ill”. Perhaps you reap what you sow. Or as the PM’s official spokesman preferred it yesterday: “At the end of this year we will no longer be bound by the EU’s laws so can negotiate our own returns agreement.” Exciting! Can’t imagine how that’ll turn out. This article began with one unflushable, though, and it must play out with another. Who should be on hand with his own take on the Channel crossings but Theresa May’s former longtime chief of staff, Nick Timothy, who declares the system so broken that the time has come to process migrants offshore. This isn’t a new idea, naturally – Tony Blair once pushed the idea of Ukraine as a “safe haven” for asylum seekers, indicating his preference for using other countries as locations in which to fight our metaphorical wars as well as our literal ones. Even so, Timothy’s unsinkable sense of rectitude does set one dreaming of a Britain where a certain type of political attention seeker could be “processed offshore”. Instead, he spent barely a summer holiday in the political wilderness after his spectacular tanking of the 2017 Tory election campaign, emerging with a column in the Daily Telegraph, which was initially branded “Ways to Win”. Talking about broken systems, the one that failed to regard Timothy as even remotely defective for more than five minutes is arguably the most broken of the lot. Yet on it goes. There will always be a place for him and Farage and all the other guys. We don’t seem to do political has-beens in this country, which is intriguing given the sheer scale of cluster****ery over the past few years. In fact, the one thing you can be absolutely sure of is that all of the people cocking things up now will be on hand for the rest of your lives to offer lucrative advice, misdirection from their mistakes or freelance clifftop video-journalism. We really are a soft-touch country – just not in the way they claim. Marina Hyde is a Guardian columnist
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11-08-2020, 01:49 PM | #423 | |||
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It's time to declare an emergency in the Channel Real Australia-style action needs to come soon, as taxpayers know what is going on is unacceptable and amounts to a national humiliation Chris Philp, the Government’s minister for immigration compliance, would like voters to believe that he has begun to take the topic of illegal migrants crossing the Channel seriously. Responding to the recent record numbers who repeatedly attempt to make this unlawful journey onto UK shores, he spoke of them facing “real consequences”. Such language is clearly designed to make everybody think that a change in policy is coming. Exactly a year ago, however, Boris Johnson made similar comments, claiming that illegal immigrants would be returned to France. Yet consider the latest statistics: there were 235 arrivals on Thursday; 146 on Friday; and 150 on Saturday. All statements on this urgent matter will remain hollow and meaningless until there is real political action, and it needs to come soon. I have spent much of the lockdown period investigating illegal immigration via the Channel. It is a practical matter, whatever anybody says. The rest of the article is below Spoiler: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...gency-channel/ |
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11-08-2020, 02:03 PM | #424 | |||
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https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...dencies/11/06/
Letter resurfaces from Nigel Farage’s schooldays warning of “racist” and “fascist” tendencies The letter expressed concerns about his "publicly professed neo-facist views" - warning that he was prone to singing Hitler youth songs. Spoiler: A letter addressed to Nigel Farage’s school master in 1981 has resurfaced on social media. The sternly written correspondence signalled early warnings about his neo-fascist tendencies – warning that he was prone to singing Hitler youth songs. Farage was a pupil at Dulwich college in South London, one of Britain’s most prestigious schools. In June 2918, English teacher Chloe Deakin begged head teacher David Emms to reconsider his decision to appoint him as a prefect. Deakin did not know Farage personally but her letter includes an account of what was said by staff at their annual meeting, held a few days earlier, to discuss new prefects. The letter says that when one teacher said Farage was “a fascist, but that was no reason why he would not make a good prefect,” there was “considerable reaction” from colleagues. The letter continues: “Another colleague, who teaches the boy, described his publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views; and he cited a particular incident in which Farage was so offensive to a boy in his set, that he had to be removed from the lesson.
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