[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Except, they’ve never killed anybody, try again

no because they came up against someone who fought back to their lawless criminality and anarchy and id imagine this will continue until these agitators are jailed en masse

[Liam-]

No, because they’re not murderers, if they were the double murderer would have been dead as well, this hero had the chance to take deadly measures to protect himself and he chose not to, he chose to put his life at risk instead.

You’re right though, there probably will be more murderous right wingers killing people for no reason, they’re the most dangerous people in the USA right now, I hope everyone stays aware and safe.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Denver]

Antifa is just a made up name to take away from the president being a benefactor in white supremacist groups

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Denver

Antifa is just a made up name to take away from the president being a benefactor in white supremacist groups

which i wonder, i guess Donnie still gets those votes from those KKK members this years elections too

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

which i wonder, i guess Donnie still gets those votes from those KKK members this years elections too

well with approximately 3,000 Klan members in the USA he isnt going to get too far with that

[Denver]

He will rely in all the other 10,000 white supremacist organisations

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Denver

He will rely in all the other 10,000 white supremacist organisations

yes like the Police, the Fire Brigade, the Church and the Binmen

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes like the Police, the Fire Brigade, the Church and the Binmen

Some nutters would probably say all of those are symbols of white supremacy

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Some nutters would probably say all of those are symbols of white supremacy

Oh I know

[Swan]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes like the Police, the Fire Brigade, the Church and the Binmen

The Binmen especially! Those damn white supremacists

[Liam-]

The police in America were set up to hunt down escaped slaves so, y’know, it wouldn’t be far wrong and reports show the level of racists joining the force has skyrocketed over the years.

And the less said about the church the better tbh.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The police in America were set up to hunt down escaped slaves.

The purposes of things can change over hundreds of years, funnily enough.

[Tom4784]

Imagine not knowing some basic US history and making out that speakingout against the police is the same as speaking out against public services as a whole when the US police were created to basically beat down slaves and 'keep them in line'.

Some people are so disingenuous with their arguments that they have to knowingly misrepresent a fact to make out that one side is wrong. Imagine jumping through so many hoops and not realising you're in the wrong.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

We'll just have to agree to disagree

As it is, all I see is a little snot who took vigilantism too far, because he wanted to protect an area from the riots. Until something comes to light which shows he wanted to kill people based on the amount of pigment in their skin, I'm gonna hold my horses. Remember riots and protests are different things, and there's no evidence he was against the latter.

And what you happen to see is a killer whose image you're softening by making him out to be a dumb kid when he's a killer that targetted protesters. To try to make out this wasn't racially motivated is particularly foolish, the whole situation is racially motivated, protesters are out there protesting because of racially motivated violence by the police. People oppose the protesters because they don't like being reminded that racism exists or they don't want to consider black people their equals. The whole situation is racially charged so contorting your mind into nonsensical justifications as to why this man chose to cross state lines with an illegally owned gun to oppose a protest protesting police brutality against black people is just particularly silly. You can't fight common sense so don't try.

Also, you've already shown your hand by being quick to blame protesters for being murdered and not the white supremacist murderer himself.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And what you happen to see is a killer whose image you're softening by making him out to be a dumb kid when he's a killer that targetted protesters. To try to make out this wasn't racially motivated is particularly foolish,

The only person he killed outside of self-defence was a white sex offender who was using the N-word. So maybe it really wasn't about race after all.

https://theothermccain.com/2020/08/2...-shoot-me-n-r/

To say he was targetting protestors is to act as if peaceful protesters are the same as rioters, which is an insult to protesters.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Can we stop pretending that using the word ",imagine" isn't just being insulting to members. I mean, please. It's not subtle

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Liam-

A 17 year old double murderer LT, he was using is liberties to attempt to disarm a double murderer, it’s not self defence to kill someone trying to disarm you after murdering two people

End of

Do you really think their only goal was to disarm him? Like they would have taken his gun and that would have been that. Anyone with half a brain knows that they would have disarmed him and then beaten him to within an inch of his life. When the kid tripped and was on the ground, at that point he really didn't have a choice.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Can we stop pretending that using the word ",imagine" isn't just being insulting to members. I mean, please. It's not subtle

You must fall to pieces every time you hear John Lennon's imagine.

'This word is ATTACKING ME!'

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The only person he killed outside of self-defence was a white sex offender who was using the N-word. So maybe it really wasn't about race after all.

https://theothermccain.com/2020/08/2...-shoot-me-n-r/

To say he was targetting protestors is to act as if peaceful protesters are the same as rioters, which is an insult to protesters.

Oh drop it, it's not self defense if you kill someone and then other people try to apprehend you. Also your source is just plain dubious when a quick google search shows that no respected publication or platform is covering this 'story'.

I know you desperately want to paint this story a certain way but if you're relying on bad sources to push a certain narrative then you're destined to be in the wrong. The Right Wing are desperate to venerate this murderer and it's gross. The victim's past is irrelevant, what the victim said is irrelevant. You don't shoot people in the face and murder them and none of the details that the right bang on about change the facts of the case.

[Denver]

Why wouls the person who has a history of hating on black people then take offence when someone uses the N word? That story makes no sense

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

Why wouls the person who has a history of hating on black people then take offence when someone uses the N word? That story makes no sense

What's his history of hating on black people?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What's his history of hating on black people?

His whole stance on the BLM and the president he supports

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Denver

His whole stance on the BLM and the president he supports

What has he said about the BLM movement?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What has he said about the BLM movement?

By turning the slogan into Blue Lives Matter whichbus a very racist thing to be doing