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Old 13-09-2020, 05:45 PM #201
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I'd personally say the side that are killing people are worse, but go off sis.
That's a separate issue. Rioters are bad whatever the reason, and murderers are bad. It's possible for more than one thing to be bad at once, you know?

I will add, even if the BLM people were enticed into rioting by people who wanted to make them look bad, they still rioted and it's still their own responsibility.
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Yes it does. You're saying all violence is incited by right wingers or people against BLM. The video is of protesters looting and acting in an aggressive, destructive manner. So it disproves your view that all violence is caused by anyone but the protesters.

Hows does smashing up a shop and stealing high end clothes/shoes, and even setting fire to them after help black lives?
I'm saying most of the violence is incited by Right Wingers/White supremacists, there will always be opportunists out for themselves but the facts are clear, when there aren't White Supremacists at these protests, you rarely hear about them because they are peaceful.

Your point only has merit if I speak only in absolutes, which I do not. Stick to what I'm actually saying, and not what you want me to have said.
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That's a separate issue. Rioters are bad whatever the reason, and murderers are bad. It's possible for more than one thing to be bad at once, you know?

I will add, even if the BLM people were enticed into rioting by people who wanted to make them look bad, they still rioted and it's still their own responsibility.
When protesters are being killed, or people are being dealt life changing injuries by the police or white supremacists, then it's not a separate issue at all.
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I think its universally accepted the looting, burning and criminality is the extreme left

i mean noone is even debating this fact in the USA

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When protesters are being killed, or people are being dealt life changing injuries by the police or white supremacists, then it's not a separate issue at all.
I'm not sure what specifically you're referring to, but people getting killed or injured doesn't absolve "their side" from anything. Rioters are still scumbags, even if someone with broadly similar views did come to harm.
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I reject the whole 'people need an escape' angle tbh. It's complete white privilege to want a 'break' from hearing about racism. Black people don't get a break, they have to live it. Black people in America have to deal with the fact that they can be shot to death while sleeping in bed, or playing a game with their nephew in their own Living Room or being shot by an officer who has wandered into their apartment and killed them because the officer was in the wrong department. The UK is not so innocent when it comes to brutality either.

If people get tired of hearing about racism and inequality in general, they should probably appreciate the fact that it doesn't affect them and the 'worst' they have to deal with is simply hearing and acknowledging that such inequality exists.
That's why I can't even be bothered to argue with people sometimes because they'll never understood or get it .

Idiots go around saying "all lives Matter" , because they're too stupid to realise equality Doesn't exist for everyone , they don't comprehend the struggles in their little pea size brain .

I also find it fascinating that people continue to blame BLM , yet there's actual hate groups and terrorist groups out there being shrugged off / ignored. White superamacy ,KKK etc you name .
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omg! This guy is like a parody of some godawful 70s comic....oh, wait...

What an absolute crank!
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That's why I can't even be bothered to argue with people sometimes because they'll never understood or get it .

Idiots go around saying "all lives Matter" , because they're too stupid to realise equality Doesn't exist for everyone , they don't comprehend the struggles in their little pea size brain .

I also find it fascinating that people continue to blame BLM , yet there's actual hate groups and terrorist groups out there being shrugged off / ignored. White superamacy ,KKK etc you name .
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That's CHEATING, you're not allowed to switch sides mid-game.
Yeah, going from Asylum seekers should be killed to eugenics is a real 180.
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omg! This guy is like a parody of some godawful 70s comic....oh, wait...

What an absolute crank!
And yet nothing he says isn't true iagree

It's all truth

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I'm not sure what specifically you're referring to, but people getting killed or injured doesn't absolve "their side" from anything. Rioters are still scumbags, even if someone with broadly similar views did come to harm.
Your whole 'both sides are bad!' argument will always read as you place equal value in buildings as you do in lives.

Buildings are insured and can be fixed, the dead can't be brought back to life. Someone can't regrow an eye that has been destroyed by police brutality.
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LT, learn the difference between an opinion and truth.
I do know

I'm not the one thinking putting up sticker's is causing looting a hotel burning
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Yeah, going from Asylum seekers should be killed to eugenics is a real 180.
Where on earth didyou get "eugenics" from what I said?
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I think bringing up 2 year old posts (again and again and again)out of context should not be encouraged.
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Remember when Jim Davidson pretended he wasn't a racist prick when he was on Big Brother? And that he was hard done by because people thought he was? It is somewhat comforting that he's now just an out and proud. What an absolute car crash of a human being. What a sodden, miserable, addled old fart. Just really, really sad stuff.
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Your whole 'both sides are bad!' argument will always read as you place equal value in buildings as you do in lives.
If that's your takeaway that's fine, but two things can be bad at once. Police brutality doesn't excuse riots. Anyone who takes part in either is an awful person. I'm not saying the actions are as bad as each other, but they're both bad and it should be possible to dislike both.
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Remember when Jim Davidson pretended he wasn't a racist prick when he was on Big Brother? And that he was hard done by because people thought he was? It is somewhat comforting that he's now just an out and proud. What an absolute car crash of a human being. What a sodden, miserable, addled old fart. Just really, really sad stuff.
He is so funny and right

I just can't..
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He is so funny and right

I just can't..
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And yet nothing he says isn't true iagree

It's all truth
As Mr T once said...I pity the fool!.
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He is so funny and right

I just can't..
Racism is funny and right?

Well at least you've stopped the pretence now. Progress.
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I just can't..
He was a wife-beating drunk and as demonstrated by this video he's still an aggressive creep, and between his puffy eyes and slurring bitterness I honestly don't buy that he isn't still a drunk.
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...Jim Davidson is just another thread of the abusive older guy on the bus, really...he made some kind of audible grunt, type thing about Alesha/I don’t know what the word for that would be../..an acknowledgement that he found her physically attractive, I think/but not sure...(...if that’s so, he did then sneakily give a second or two to say she had intelligence, which obviously balances his prejudices...)...‘she sings a little and dances a little’...how superior of him and that young lady has just been ‘put in her place’ of being pretty/eye candy and her artistic talents have been reduced to a little’...and goodness gracious, she’s looking a bit too black, what about her white ass bit..apparently before winning BB, he was this humble person who was looking to revive his career a bit more....hmmmmm...he’s ahead of his time, really...he showed so many prejudices and grim character etc before any of Diversity became even a sparkle in their parent’s eyes, as they say...and he’s reverted back to being ‘loud and proud’ about it...

...if you asked a classroom at primary school level...so we’re going to watch this video to look at which things you feel show prejudice, so that we can discuss them all etc...I would like you to write down a few on a little whiteboard...they’d be totally spoiled for choice...not just with race prejudices but with sexism as well...that man has lived so many years and had many life experiences and still stayed standing in the same place...he appears to feel that if he disingenuously self depreciates of being ‘old and white and fat and past it’...we won’t see him and who he is...he doesn’t even have the excuse anymore of...’..well that’s how it was back in the day, I didn’t know better...’....silly, silly man and still filled with so much prejudice and part of what represents ‘BLM’ because he’s making the rules of equality and he don’t want no one taking his rules away...

...it’s really sad to see someone have a renewed confidence in vocally reinventing and expressing their prejudices in such a regressive way...when convincing in his housemate days that he won’t live in those prejudices no more...
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