Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

View Poll Results: Should the UK remain in the EU or leave?
Remain 30 54.55%
Remain
30 54.55%
Leave 18 32.73%
Leave
18 32.73%
Undecided 7 12.73%
Undecided
7 12.73%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 15-09-2020, 07:29 AM #5776
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,550

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 61,550

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

I don’t understand what it means
__________________


'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages'
Cherie is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 07:31 AM #5777
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

So many Con MPs expressed really strong concerns too.

However having seen how this totally inept PM treated many dedicated long serving Con MPs last year.

So they likely dare not vote against his bills.
Even if they totally disagree with it.
So enough didn't vote it down.

Wes Streeting from Labour put it really well.
When he mentioned his disputes with difficulties in Labour then challenged Con MPs who knew this bill was and is wrong for them, to do the right thing.

Sadly enough Con MPs didn't.
Still another battle maybe to come yet on this one.
joeysteele is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 08:24 AM #5778
bitontheslide's Avatar
bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,527

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
bitontheslide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,527

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
I don’t understand what it means
It gives them the right to have a hard border to the republic. The reason being that they dont want a border between NI and the mainland in the event of a no deal brexit - which makes perfect sense to me. I personally think it's the sovereign countries right to be able to enforce it's borders.

Some may say it affects peace .... but the simple fact is those that want peace wont get upset about a border if they genuinely want peace
bitontheslide is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 08:27 AM #5779
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,593

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,593

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
I don’t understand what it means
It means he is using his brain and setting up an insurance policy if things go wrong.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 08:48 AM #5780
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

As a British citizen.
I expect any Prime Minister and government to be law abiding and keep their word on signed agreements, treaties and anything set in International law.

This bill gives the possible authority, only because of a now failing and flawed electoral system to this PM and government.
To break the UK's word on said signed agreement.

Even the Northern Ireland secretary himself in the government, has said it will mean breaking international law.
Even the former attorney general too.

As a British citizen, that's not how I want to see my Country to be seen to be, or even be as to not being trusted on the integrity of its word.

I'll never agree with anyone who believes that to be in any way right, appropriate or acceptable to do so, in any circumstances.

Johnson really is an inept PM, however becoming increasingly more dangerous in his obsession with power.
That's my personal and REALLY dismayed view of this unnecessary bill.
Which I see NO reason for doing, the way it is being done.

Last edited by joeysteele; 15-09-2020 at 08:50 AM.
joeysteele is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 09:42 AM #5781
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

So now it's done, Arista, what do you have to say now?
__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 09:54 AM #5782
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion View Post
It means he is using his brain and setting up an insurance policy if things go wrong.
Can you explain what this means? He campaigned on an oven ready deal, he won a massive majority on his oven ready deal, parliament passed his oven ready deal. This was the WA boris and tories wanted, so what could go wrong? Brexit was the easiest deal to make in history, according to leave.
__________________

Last edited by The Slim Reaper; 15-09-2020 at 10:00 AM.
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 10:08 AM #5783
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
So now it's done, Arista, what do you have to say now?

Slim its not done until
the 31st of December
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 10:26 AM #5784
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
Slim its not done until
the 31st of December
then as soon as it happens, you'll say it's done now move on.
__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 10:32 AM #5785
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
Can you explain what this means? He campaigned on an oven ready deal, he won a massive majority on his oven ready deal, parliament passed his oven ready deal. This was the WA boris and tories wanted, so what could go wrong? Brexit was the easiest deal to make in history, according to leave.

That's all just further evidence of his endless now list of lies and deceit politically.
Even to voters.

Yet voters fall for it and support him.

Regardless of damage to standing or reputation of a decent, internationally agreed law abiding, trustworthy and leading World nation, which the UK, is supposed to be.

Well after this, it WAS, it won't be seen as that likely anymore, rightly so it won't be too.
joeysteele is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 10:33 AM #5786
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
then as soon as it happens, you'll say it's done now move on.

Yes in the New Year
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 02:13 PM #5787
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

This would be pretty funny, and deserved.

__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 15-09-2020, 03:44 PM #5788
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
Default

For Slim
from Germany, subtitled

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 02:14 PM #5789
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 03:58 PM #5790
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 04:33 PM #5791
bitontheslide's Avatar
bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,527

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
bitontheslide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,527

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
this should surely be good news for those of us who want to protect the NHS ... you included slim
bitontheslide is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 04:46 PM #5792
Nicky91's Avatar
Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Zumi Zimi Zami
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,901

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Nicky91 Nicky91 is offline
Zumi Zimi Zami
Nicky91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Brabant, Netherlands
Posts: 62,901

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Paul
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

__________________

Taking part in Strictly Jake's Tibb does Strictly Game.
Nicky91 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 04:51 PM #5793
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
this should surely be good news for those of us who want to protect the NHS ... you included slim
Not really the point. We're alienating everyone away from even wanting to do deals with us.
__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 06:23 PM #5794
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
Default

[Brexit: Boris Johnson partially climbs down
on Internal Market Bill in face of Tory rebellion


Downing Street offered a compromise to try
and win over the dozens of Conservatives
who either abstained or voted against
the draft legislation that would override
the withdrawal agreement - breaking international law.

A statement was released "following talks" between
Number 10 and disgruntled backbenchers,
agreeing that the amendment
will provide a "clearer, more explicit democratic
mandate for the use of these powers".
And ministers have agreed to another amendment
that "sets clear limits on the scope and
timeliness of judicial review" of the bill.
The prime minister has promised to give MPs
another vote before any of the powers are used,
as long as they pass the Internal Market Bill
when it is due to complete its
Commons journey early next week.]

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-bo...llion-12073557
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 07:25 PM #5795
joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


joeysteele joeysteele is offline
Remembering Kerry
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: with Mystic Mock
Posts: 41,005

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Jordan
Strictly 2020: HRVY


Default

After all the chaos of last year.

Plus the deceit clearly from Johnson and his cabinet.
Anyone unhappy with this bill as it stands.
Simply need to alter it or vote against it.
If they feel so strongly.

To trust Johnson now, since he was offering not a single thing up to the bill being voted on.
I'd say would be folly.

How though really, at this time, after the mess last year of which all parties were to blame for.
Plus this crisis of this pandemic.
What competent or even decent PM would have got to this point of irritating strong numbers of his own backbenchers, while in government, to even think of bringing in this bill.

It's like they test to see how more easily it is to deceive further and railroad bad policy through even parliament.

Last edited by joeysteele; 16-09-2020 at 07:27 PM.
joeysteele is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 16-09-2020, 07:37 PM #5796
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
Default

Clause 46 Vote In Parliament

Easy Win.

Ayes 340
Noes 51


Labour Amendment 14 LOST

Noes 330

Ayes 208

Last edited by arista; 16-09-2020 at 08:11 PM.
arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 17-09-2020, 12:33 PM #5797
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
The Slim Reaper The Slim Reaper is offline
Oh no, I'm English
The Slim Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: In MS Paint on your desktop
Posts: 12,893
Default

__________________
The Slim Reaper is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 18-09-2020, 12:05 PM #5798
arista's Avatar
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
arista arista is offline
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,704
Default

arista is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 18-09-2020, 12:18 PM #5799
Niamh.'s Avatar
Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,282

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
Niamh.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,282

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
__________________

Spoiler:

Quote:
Originally Posted by GiRTh View Post
You compare Jim Davidson to Nelson Mandela?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus. View Post
I know, how stupid? He's more like Gandhi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 View Post



Katie Hopkins reveals epilepsy made her suicidal - and says she identifies as a MAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Just because she is a giant cock, doesn't make her a man.
Niamh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 18-09-2020, 12:59 PM #5800
Ammi's Avatar
Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 63,489


Ammi Ammi is offline
Quand il pleut, il pleut
Ammi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 63,489


Default

....Boris is terrifying...surely the people who voted for him and voted Brexit can still see that and be hugely concerned by him...
Ammi is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
2016, 23rd, brexit, eu, june, opera, referendum, soap

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:15 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts