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Old 15-09-2020, 05:05 PM #1
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Thumbs down Is ZOE BALL'S breakfast show on R2 worh her £1,360,000 salary|?

£113,000 a month for that pish?




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I find her annoying to be honest, but then I think Chris Evans was too.

Staggered by Vanessa Feltz getting that much for a 4-6:30am slot and no idea who Stephen Nolan even is. Of the Radio 2 staff, Ken Bruce deserves to be on there
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She should be ashamed to take that fee and Gary
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I find her annoying to be honest, but then I think Chris Evans was too.

Staggered by Vanessa Feltz getting that much for a 4-6:30am slot and no idea who Stephen Nolan even is. Of the Radio 2 staff, Ken Bruce deserves to be on there
agree but i would add steve Wright
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Wonder how many over 75's must be listening to Zoe Ball on R2. How else is a raise that big justified?!
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they are worth what employers are prepared to pay. It isn't a measure of her competence
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I find her annoying to be honest, but then I think Chris Evans was too.

Staggered by Vanessa Feltz getting that much for a 4-6:30am slot and no idea who Stephen Nolan even is. Of the Radio 2 staff, Ken Bruce deserves to be on there
Nolan does 5 Live on weekend nights 10pm-1am and he has a daily show on BBC Radio Ulster I think. It is a lot for that slot but he's been there for years and his show is pretty successful I think
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they are worth what employers are prepared to pay. It isn't a measure of her competence
As in the paying GBP?
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Way over paid, all of them. The only one who I think is justified is Graham Norton. Simply due to his show being wordwide but I think his production company still owns the show so his total is probably the highest of them all. Newsreaders are not worth 1/2 a millon, sorry and how is lauren Lavern on so much. I like her but she's hardly a fixture at the BBC.
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Gary would get the same or more switching to Sky.
Not sure Zoe would get half.
That's the difference.
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agree but i would add steve Wright
Oh I only meant of the staff not on the list, yeah Steve Wright deserves it too
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Gary would get the same or more switching to Sky.
Not sure Zoe would get half.
That's the difference.
Thats fine, people choose to pay for Sky, the BBC should be answerable to the tax payer
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Thats fine, people choose to pay for Sky, the BBC should be answerable to the tax payer
Its the market rate.
Either they have 2nd rate presenters or they pay to keep their best talent.
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8 million listeners so I’d assume so
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If she brings in the listeners then of course she's worth it.
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Evans was on £2.2m at its peak, and when Zoe took over there was a lot of discussion about how her salary would compare to his. Honestly, I think if she’d been on anything less than a million there’d have just as equally been a lot of complaints about the gender pay gap again. If you pay someone a salary of that magnitude in the first place, you kind of set a precedent going forward unfortunately. And I think that’s fair enough tbh (I don’t care for either of them, btw)

There’s a bigger factor at play here though. As fascinating as these yearly lists may be, they are only duty bound to report them because the government has been hellbent on increasing the “this is tax payers money!!!” sentiment. If they remained private, would any of these discussions even be happening? Would the agents of BBC talent be comparing like for like with people’s predecessors or colleagues when negotiating fees? There’s a certain irony in that these lists, if anything, are actually compounding the “problem” people have with the amount of money being paid out
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Hush money probably.

To cover up something well dodgy.

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Evans was on £2.2m at its peak, and when Zoe took over there was a lot of discussion about how her salary would compare to his. Honestly, I think if she’d been on anything less than a million there’d have just as equally been a lot of complaints about the gender pay gap again. If you pay someone a salary of that magnitude in the first place, you kind of set a precedent going forward unfortunately. And I think that’s fair enough tbh (I don’t care for either of them, btw)

There’s a bigger factor at play here though. As fascinating as these yearly lists may be, they are only duty bound to report them because the government has been hellbent on increasing the “this is tax payers money!!!” sentiment. If they remained private, would any of these discussions even be happening? Would the agents of BBC talent be comparing like for like with people’s predecessors or colleagues when negotiating fees? There’s a certain irony in that these lists, if anything, are actually compounding the “problem” people have with the amount of money being paid out
First point is kinda true but Chris Evans built up his salary and his show over a number of years and since he's left they've lost loads of listeners

I do actually like Zoe and don't begrudge her that salary too much because it's the biggest show on radio but I don't think she should automatically match what Evans got paid
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Weird no radio 1 presenters are on there. I thought scott mills or greg james might earn a mint?
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Weird no radio 1 presenters are on there. I thought scott mills or greg james might earn a mint?
While interesting they're not all only radio people, Fiona Bruce is on everything lol

At a rough guess I'd say the R1 folks aren't doing much else for the BBC, and they're all younger than the R2 bunch (on average) so haven't had as much time to build their bbc salary.
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First point is kinda true but Chris Evans built up his salary and his show over a number of years and since he's left they've lost loads of listeners

I do actually like Zoe and don't begrudge her that salary too much because it's the biggest show on radio but I don't think she should automatically match what Evans got paid
That’s why I said at its peak. My point was not “her salary should match that of Evans”, more that in making these salaries public, it has created a culture in which agents have a benchmark figure from which to negotiate for their clients, and they can cite the gender pay gap to boot. Also I think it’s worth noting this salary was probably contracted before her first RAJARs were even posted

There’s basically now a very public price on Radio 2 Breakfast, and you could argue it’s set a precedent for every future host of the show. If the figures were still private, we’d all (including BBC talent) be none the wiser, and post-Evans (who could command that kind of salary in the commercial radio marketplace), the fee might not’ve been so high. I think there’s a certain irony to that

Anyway, I’m not a Radio 2 listener yet but I was actually talking to someone in the industry about a week ago and they think she’ll be gone within 18 months with Coxy moved to breakfast, and *maybe* Scott Mills on drive. Interesting times ahead!
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Weird no radio 1 presenters are on there. I thought scott mills or greg james might earn a mint?
They’re on the list, just not in many of the press articles oddly

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-54160658

Scott’s on £345k, Greg £275k
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