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Old 18-09-2020, 07:58 PM   #26
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Tibb has plenty so here we are.
Yet the only place this seems to be news is on the daily mail website, they love squeezing your big red noses.
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Old 18-09-2020, 08:02 PM   #27
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Yet the only place this seems to be news is on the daily mail website, they love squeezing your big red noses.
I dont think ive ever been on that site or even looked at the paper in the paper rack at co op..I have followed links on tibb and argued about stuff with other idiots though.


What does your nose look like?
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Old 18-09-2020, 08:20 PM   #28
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Yep so common her bad writing made her a billionaire.
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Old 19-09-2020, 12:12 AM   #29
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The quality of someone's writing isn't dependant on whether you agree with their opinions.
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I didn't say it did, its a pretty common opinion on her writing, and has been for decades
I have to say, despite all of my other opinions on all of this in general, and despite the fact that I think the Harry Potter series is an absolute triumph of imagination and character/world building which is obviously also a huge part of writing ability... ... ...

...and having only read the HP series...

... ... she isn't a particularly "skilled" writer. Her pacing can be dodgy, her dialogue is often extremely clumsy and clunky, her descriptive vocabulary is limited (and not in a deliberate "because it's for kids" way, in a repetitive way) and I'll be honest and say that what I have seen/heard of this other detective series (that I didn't even know existed) sounds like utter garbage. I mean that's just the truth of the matter here . Hogwarts is an amazingly well realised concept, the core HP characters are iconic and so well fleshed out, the lore building of the series is incredible, the over-arching plot (simple as it is) works and is good but that world - from what I've seen - is her work of art. The writing style itself is functional enough to get that world onto paper and into the imaginations of others, but I don't think many real fans of writing as a craft in itself could call it "great writing" with a straight face. The HP series is obviously massive, 7 books and several of them very long ones, so you'd expect some fluctuation in quality but there are some passages that are absolute howlers. Again, often dialogue.



So yeah I'm also not going to pretend that this passage about burqas isn't absolutely abysmal dialogue... but I don't think it's guilty of anything more than that.
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Old 19-09-2020, 12:23 AM   #30
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I agree TS, I've always loved the books and stories, but never thought they were amazing written. But Hogwarts feels like a real place, and all the named characters feel like real people.
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Old 19-09-2020, 01:34 AM   #31
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I have to say, despite all of my other opinions on all of this in general, and despite the fact that I think the Harry Potter series is an absolute triumph of imagination and character/world building which is obviously also a huge part of writing ability... ... ...

...and having only read the HP series...

... ... she isn't a particularly "skilled" writer. Her pacing can be dodgy, her dialogue is often extremely clumsy and clunky, her descriptive vocabulary is limited (and not in a deliberate "because it's for kids" way, in a repetitive way) and I'll be honest and say that what I have seen/heard of this other detective series (that I didn't even know existed) sounds like utter garbage. I mean that's just the truth of the matter here . Hogwarts is an amazingly well realised concept, the core HP characters are iconic and so well fleshed out, the lore building of the series is incredible, the over-arching plot (simple as it is) works and is good but that world - from what I've seen - is her work of art. The writing style itself is functional enough to get that world onto paper and into the imaginations of others, but I don't think many real fans of writing as a craft in itself could call it "great writing" with a straight face. The HP series is obviously massive, 7 books and several of them very long ones, so you'd expect some fluctuation in quality but there are some passages that are absolute howlers. Again, often dialogue.



So yeah I'm also not going to pretend that this passage about burqas isn't absolutely abysmal dialogue... but I don't think it's guilty of anything more than that.
Well, I wasn't asking for a debate on the actual quality.

Just that the quality of it isn't based on whether someone, years later, finds her politics problematic or not. There's far too many people revising their own tastes/likes/dislikes just because, shock horror, a person they've never met in their life doesn't hold all the same opinions and values as they do.
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Old 19-09-2020, 06:08 PM   #32
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Is there going to be a thread defending her against every tweet that has just 1300 RTs? Because it's getting boring to read
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