[Oliver_W]

To be fair with a new leader and front bench, I think this is a good time for Labour to hold a conference. We can "get to know" the new big players, and allow the party to lay out their new plans etc. Especially if they address what will be changing after the whupping they got in the last General.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair with a new leader and front bench, I think this is a good time for Labour to hold a conference. We can "get to know" the new big players, and allow the party to lay out their new plans etc. Especially if they address what will be changing after the whupping they got in the last General.

Who have they got to impress us ??


Jon Ashworth , Ed Miliband and Diane Abbott spring to mind ... what a scary thought .

Part of me wishes Labour could just ‘take over’ NOW - to see what a mess THEY would make of the pandemic/Brexit talks etc

At least it would provide some comic value entertainment..


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair with a new leader and front bench, I think this is a good time for Labour to hold a conference. We can "get to know" the new big players, and allow the party to lay out their new plans etc. Especially if they address what will be changing after the whupping they got in the last General.

I agree with most of that.

I just however at this time, think it's near Impossible to present much that's new.

I don't want to see a long list of criticising the reactions of this pandemic, I do that myself yes,however I am glad to see the opposition support the government when they do anything better to deal with it.

They cannot present policies, they have no figures that are true in front of them, either in relation to the economy or this pandemic.
Brexit is still to be done.

Whatever is said at this time could be redundant by Spring next year.

Yes, good to see the team.
Someone mentioned Diane Abbott, she's not even in the cabinet anymore.
So rather petty to bring her name up.

Kier Starmer has a better team.
Actually Miliband was good as a Minister before being leader, he was excellent last week.

I think there were only 3 things in the main Labour need to change from the last election.
The Brexit confusion, that's done now.
Although badly with Johnson and his surge to no deal.
We still don't know if there will be one or not.

The leadership,I think Corbyn got unfair and vicious press, however in the election campaign I found he was a big drawback now.

anti-Semitism too.
Which is ongoing but with Starmer, such a better atmosphere around it and the belief he will not tolerate it in the slightest.

Other than that, policies, plans and even moderate future proposals are linked to this pandemic and the economy after brexit.

I just feel the conference season ought to have been put off this year.
Especially with this virus gaining strength again.

I'm often asked do I believe Labour would have done any better in this pandemic.
That cannot be answered by me really.

I think a more National coalition with the devolved assemblies too would have.

All I'd stick my neck out on, would be to say, I think Labour would have protected the vulnerable and elderly much more.
So likely resulting in a lot less care home deaths.

I don't think we would have ended up in the same holes, Italy, Spain and France sadly found themselves in.
With the UK not just diving into those holes after them but then digging our hole deeper.
As to deaths and lack of protection equipment and the farce of testing.

I doubt any other party or combination of parties could have been as deceitful and incompetent as Johnson and his absolutely wastes of space Ministers.
Particularly his surely truly discredited for all time now Health secretary.

[bots]

i think the labour conference is more important than the others because thats what drives future policy. It will let us know if the unions are going to play ball etc, so for them, it's much more than introducing the new cabinet

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think the labour conference is more important than the others because thats what drives future policy. It will let us know if the unions are going to play ball etc, so for them, it's much more than introducing the new cabinet

Yes Keir is doing his speech
on Tuesday
also the day the PM talks to us all.


He claims to be on good terms with the Unions.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think the labour conference is more important than the others because thats what drives future policy. It will let us know if the unions are going to play ball etc, so for them, it's much more than introducing the new cabinet

Well reading yours, Oliver's and arista's views on this.
I bow to them.

Let's see what comes from it then.
As to the Unions, I agree with them most of the time however, they always have their own agenda too.

I can't see them in the main wanting to rock the boat.
Even less so in this setting of having no real physical presence audience to perform to.

However, you 3 have changed my mind.