[Nicky91]

https://www.thelocal.de/20200921/mun...t-restrictions

update from Germany, Munich tightens coronavirus mask rules and contact restrictions


https://www.thelocal.de/20200921/fev...virus-strategy

and here a article about a new coronavirus strategy by German health minister ''fever outpatient clinics''

[arista]

4,368 New Cases of Covid-19 in the UK
just announced


And Wales has locked down 4 zones.

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

[Coronavirus: PM to chair emergency COBRA meeting tomorrow
ahead of statement on pandemic
Boris Johnson is expected to announce
new measures designed to curb the number
of COVID-19 infections.]


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...demic-12077942


Sir Keir is live from 11AM

So this PM needs to go live tomorrow after 10AM?

First time for months
Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland
Also the Mayor of London
are on Zoom or Skype to the COBRA meeting.

[arista]

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by arista

The GBP are going to be FURIOUS. Some Scampi Fries will be thrown at the telly at my local tonight, let me tell you.

[Nicky91]

closing pubs will very likely anger certain people i agree TS

[bitontheslide]

if they close pubs, people will just meet up elsewhere, probably in a lot less safe environment. People are at their limits in accepting restrictions, and this may well be the straw that breaks the camels back

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if they close pubs, people will just meet up elsewhere, probably in a lot less safe environment. People are at their limits in accepting restrictions, and this may well be the straw that breaks the camels back

Of course Private Party for the youngers - who do not care.........


Maybe it could be all pubs to close at 10PM.

[bitontheslide]

Do you really think closing the pubs an hour earlier is going to drop the numbers of infections Arista? I don't

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Do you really think closing the pubs an hour earlier is going to drop the numbers of infections Arista? I don't

Yes it may not help that much

[Kizzy]

That Tim wotsit the wetherspoons guy has been quiet lately, his crappy pubs are a breeding ground for many things covid included.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Also can people stop blaming young people. Its old people who dont seem to be understanding social distancing. Every shop im in they ram up my ass!!!!

It's idiots of all ages, to be fair

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That Tim wotsit the wetherspoons guy has been quiet lately, his crappy pubs are a breeding ground for many things covid included.

I read something a couple of weeks ago, that around 70 of his bar workers had contracted covid.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I read something a couple of weeks ago, that around 70 of his bar workers had contracted covid.

Yep I saw that and that's just the ones reported, if you want a source for regional outbreaks in inner cities my guess would be start there.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yep I saw that and that's just the ones reported, if you want a source for regional outbreaks in inner cities my guess would be start there.

Especially when you throw in the Galahad, anti-mask patronage of those places. Absolute breeding ground.

[The Slim Reaper]

Vote tory, get tories.

[MTVN]

70 cases amongst 43,000 Wetherspoons employees

I think a 10pm curfew would be quite effective. It puts an end to the 'big night out' which a lot of people seem to have been returning to city centres for recently and stops people drinking to excess

[The Slim Reaper]

70 bar staff (employee numbers represent different staffing positions) exchanging money with customers, holding the same surfaces, talking in close proximity. 70 infected bar staff isn't about those 70, it's about who they spread it to, who in turn then spread it on again, and again, etc.

Already scrapped the tracing part of track and trace.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

70 bar staff (employee numbers represent different staffing positions) exchanging money with customers, holding the same surfaces, talking in close proximity. 70 infecte bar staff isn't about those 70, it's about who they spread it to, who in turn then spread it on again, and again, etc.

Already scrapped the tracing part of track and trace.

No different to infections that have happened in any other customer facing industry which has happened all over, seems to be a bit of a snobbish attitude that because its Wetherspoons they must have not been taking any precautions although I think big chains are often a lot better at implementing the correct procedures

Last I heard track and trace were still reaching the majority of contacts and people were complying with isolating. Good news that the track and trace app is also launching this Thursday

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

No different to infections that have happened in any other customer facing industry which has happened all over, seems to be a bit of a snobbish attitude that because its Wetherspoons they must have not been taking any precautions although I think big chains are often a lot better at implementing the correct procedures

Last I heard track and trace were still reaching the majority of contacts and people were complying with isolating. Good news that the track and trace app is also launching this Thursday

That app is launching without trace.

I hold my hands up to the snobbish attitude towards weatherperspoons in general, but lets not pretend tim martin wouldn't have happily kept his pubs open throughout saying "you can't get covid in bars". He'd happily have killed loads of people if his bars would have remained open.

I read earlier that the app was without trace, but just read the gov said it will have trace so you were correct on that.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That app is launching without trace.

I hold my hands up to the snobbish attitude towards weatherperspoons in general, but lets not pretend tim martin wouldn't have happily kept his pubs open throughout saying "you can't get covid in bars". He'd happily have killed loads of people if his bars would have remained open.

I read earlier that the app was without trace, but just read the gov said it will have trace so you were correct on that.

Yeah I saw there was some confusion with that earlier with some contradictory briefings going on

[Kizzy]

It will be interesting to see if the death rate correlates to the rate of infection, I'm with the theory there is more than one strain and hopefully the more deadly one is not the one currently rising exponentially.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It will be interesting to see if the death rate correlates to the rate of infection, I'm with the theory there is more than one strain and hopefully the more deadly one is not the one currently rising exponentially.

I’m convinced that the severity of your illness is directly linked to the size of the virus load you are in contact with ..


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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m convinced that the severity of your illness is directly linked to the size of the virus load you are in contact with ..


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Oh yes that too without a doubt, however some asymptomatic and others dying within hours?... surely that can't be the exact same thing? Regardless of age/dose that's extreme.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It will be interesting to see if the death rate correlates to the rate of infection, I'm with the theory there is more than one strain and hopefully the more deadly one is not the one currently rising exponentially.

I'm sure they've identified "for certain" that there are two main strains, the first one in China was more severe but spread less easily (which would, if true, explain why China was able to stop the spread more effectively even with their huge population) ... the other strain is the one that is thought to have mutated in Europe (probably Italy) and actually is the milder strain - fewer severe cases and deaths per case but spreads from person to person much more easily. But that's already thought to be the one that has infected most of Europe, the US, and pretty much everywhere outside of East Asia.