[arista]

The First Debate of Trump Vs Biden

Is Live Wednesday 2AM on SkyNewsHD and BBCNewsHD

[Tom4784]

His base will support him blindly until the end of time, but hopefully it'll hold sway with the undecided.

[GiRTh]

The ten key points from Donald Trump's tax returns

Just wow. Donnie only paid $750 in tax year 2016 while Obama paid over a million in his first year in office.

[bitontheslide]

[arista]

[Swan]

Yeah, it's Biden's to lose now.

[arista]

[Ammi]

...that’s so dodgy...a multi millionaire not paying tax at all for several years and one year only paying 750 dollars...a multi millionaire...?...how could he not have been investigated in the blink of an eye, I mean it would have jumped off the page at them....that’s so, so dodgy, surely...that, that could have happened...

[bitontheslide]

trump supporters will think he did well managing to evade tax

[Ammi]

...I’m just totally focused on how the tax office could have not noticed a multi millionaire either not paying tax at all or just a few hundred dollars......does the Donald own all of the tax office staff or something.../...weird and incredible...

[Josy]

Not a trump supporter here before anyone suggests it...

Is this even that unusual though? Or is it just because its trump most big businesses pay very little if any tax and it's not the business owner personally that files the returns it's the accountants.

[arista]

[Josy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The ten key points from Donald Trump's tax returns

Just wow. Donnie only paid $750 in tax year 2016 while Obama paid over a million in his first year in office.

Doesnt trump donate his presidential salary to various charities?

I'm sure I read that earlier.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Josy

Not a trump supporter here before anyone suggests it...

Is this even that unusual though? Or is it just because its trump most big businesses pay very little if any tax and it's not the business owner personally that files the returns it's the accountants.

these are trumps personal taxes, he has no income and he has personal loans for 1.1 billion ... underwritten by him personally. He hasn't kept a clear partition between the business and personal.... rules applicable for business are not applicable on a personal level ... and that's where he has ****ed up

[Josy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

these are trumps personal taxes, he has no income and he has personal loans for 1.1 billion ... underwritten by him personally. He hasn't kept a clear partition between the business and personal.... rules applicable for business are not applicable on a personal level ... and that's where he has ****ed up

Ah right I wasnt aware it was his personal tax

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Josy

Doesnt trump donate his presidential salary to various charities?

I'm sure I read that earlier.

he says it, but that doesn't make it true

Everybody is going yeah first debate tomorrow ... but Trump will just lie and be a tit, same as he always does. its not a useful platform at all

[GiRTh]

In 2016 Trump campaigned on getting rid of the billionaire tax loop holes but instead he took advantage of them These reports also show he's a terrible business man. He's got over $300 million dollars in loans that will soon become due. He's got nowhere near enough money to pay them. His finances are a house of cards.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah, it's Biden's to lose now.

I'm not counting out that fat twat until the last vote is counted. It was Hillary's to lose before Russia got involved.

[Ammi]

...yeah, I don’t think it was ever Biden’s to lose and it still isn’t...it’s like that thing/expression of ‘possession is 9/10 of the law’...it’s very hard for someone to ‘take from’ and much easier for someone to ‘hold onto or retain’...I think that can often apply to voting as well and elections as a general..it’s not enough to have a voting mindset of, no Trump, no Trump, no more, no more...many voters also have to actively support a belief in Biden, they have to belief that he’s their man and would make the president that they need right now...I personally..(..and sadly..)...think the most ‘done deal’ is still the Donald for the win...and I’m not sure what ‘wrongs’ he could do that would change that because he’s done so many already that have been overlooked/excused etc by his voting supporters...we’ll see, it’ll be interesting...

...it’s a crazy old world though or will be if ‘money and taxes’ are eventually the crime what did him in and lost his votes... when he’s committed so many ‘crimes against human..’...and that support kept on coming...

[Swan]

I know people will disagree, but i still think if Biden aces the debates, i have absolutely no doubt he'll win.

First one is tonight right? Well Technically tomorrow. Shall be interesting. I have a late ish stream tonight, so i'll be up and watching after that.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not counting out that fat twat until the last vote is counted. It was Hillary's to lose before Russia got involved.

Tbf those leaked Emails didn't help her either.

[bitontheslide]

Hillary was not well liked, i said from the outset of that election that she would lose, and i put money on it too, so I don't think it was a surprise at all.

This election is somewhat different. I don't think Biden is well liked, but people have had 4 years to experience Trump now ....and if the majority think that he is still best for the country, well, it's their choice, but America will never be respected again in the wider community

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Hillary was not well liked, i said from the outset of that election that she would lose, and i put money on it too, so I don't think it was a surprise at all.

This election is somewhat different. I don't think Biden is well liked, but people have had 4 years to experience Trump now ....and if the majority think that he is still best for the country, well, it's their choice, but America will never be respected again in the wider community

4 years experiencing him as president, and a longer time of Trump annoying majority of american people on twitter with his huge amount of insults to opposition, bragging about soleimani's murder, bragging about how greatly he has handled the coronacrisis, bragging about how he made america great again

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

4 years experiencing him as president, and a longer time of Trump annoying majority of american people on twitter with his huge amount of insults to opposition, bragging about soleimani's murder, bragging about how greatly he has handled the coronacrisis, bragging about how he made america great again

Do you honestly think the average undecided voter is gonna be like 'oh yeah some of trumps tweets annoyed me, im voting for biden bro'........Please!

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Swan

Do you honestly think the average undecided voter is gonna be like 'oh yeah some of trumps tweets annoyed me, im voting for biden bro'........Please!

its not only that from Trump i know


also his lies and deception, and now the news gotten out he tried to deter some people last election, also works against him


and about his taxes, he can say fake news but he never ever reveals anything about his taxes, which makes it quite shady