[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Both sides have lots of previous when it comes to this sort of thing.

Physical violence is never the answer, unless in self defence. She's most probably milking it Slim, you see it all the time in pictures when you're pushing an agenda. Both sides do it, but you can see she's taken a smack of some sort.

Not really sure both sides do have a history of claiming false attacks against themselves, but maybe I've missed some reports. I can't see she's taken a smack at all, just being honest.

I agree that both sides can be violent, but only one of those sides turns their felon into a martyr, and is rewarded with millions of dollars.

[Liam-]

Knowing trump supporters, ‘attending the woman’s march’ probably means heckling and abusing people until she got the reaction she wanted so she could play the victim

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Knowing trump supporters, ‘attending the woman’s march’ probably means heckling and abusing people until she got the reaction she wanted so she could play the victim

they learn from the best, their grand untouchable messiah


not gonna be shocked if the biased and deluded fox and friends are gonna demand the death penalty for the people who assaulted this woman

[Swan]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not really sure both sides do have a history of claiming false attacks against themselves, but maybe I've missed some reports. I can't see she's taken a smack at all, just being honest.

I agree that both sides can be violent, but only one of those sides turns their felon into a martyr, and is rewarded with millions of dollars.

Well Jessie Smollet is a good example of both sides claiming untruths. What he did was despicable.

[Ammi]

...Surely an attack such as this being reported on Twitter etc will become media news soon and covered by the main USA media sources...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Surely an attack such as this being reported on Twitter etc will become media news soon and covered by the main USA media sources...

yes ok fair enough, i'll follow CNN's story then, prefer them over FOX anytime when it comes to news

but yes i agree of course, no one deserves to be assaulted, no matter what their political beliefs are

democracy is crap right now i know, that is why i want the best for america, as a non-american

[AnnieK]

You can tell **** from that twitter post. She could have just had fillers in her lips for all we know. I used to work with a woman who had one of those collars which she would randomly come into work wearing (and once decided half way through the working day she had developed whiplash) so having a neck brace on and slightly full lips doesn't really tell us anything.

If she has been assaulted because of her views, that is wrong and I hope whomever has attacked her is brought to justice but I'm going to need more proof.

I believe smollett and so now take a long look at any of these types of stories before I believe a word of it

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Swan

Well Jessie Smollet is a good example of both sides claiming untruths. What he did was despicable.

Fair, although I'd say JS's claim was to advance his career and for personal gain, rather than hurt Trump if we're really linking it to a side. He's also been shunned, and his career has ended. He wasn't rewarded for it.

[Ammi]

...I don’t know if this is true either, I’m just seeing what I can find in the apparent absence of any media coverage, which seems odd if someone was attacked as is said that she was...but this tweet was the same person from a year ago...

..she was apparently beaten up and dragged through a car park for wearing a Trump supportive t-shirt...but no police involvement and no media coverage again..?...

[Liam-]

Ah she’s a friend of Charlie’s? Definitely fake then

[bitontheslide]

we should only trust news where it has been verified by multiple reliable sources. Making up fake news is the easiest thing in the world

[Ammi]

...I just feel that if there is truth in this attack then it’ll be covered by the main media and we’ll possibly see vid footage from at least one phone etc...but I can’t imagine a story/attack like this not being covered in the main news channels...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Ah she’s a friend of Charlie’s? Definitely fake then

[Ammi]

...who is Charlie..?...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...who is Charlie..?...

He runs turning point USA - a far right propaganda group.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He runs turning point USA - a far right propaganda group.

...oh Charlie Kirk, isn’t it...?..I read a bit about him and Turning Point only recently, he’s a Scientologist also...I was thinking of Kirstie Alley supporting Trump as well, is he a popular choice for Scientologist...?...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...oh Charlie Kirk, isn’t it...?..I read a bit about him and Turning Point only recently, he’s a Scientologist also...I was thinking of Kirstie Alley supporting Trump as well, is he a popular choice for Scientologist...?...

He's a popular choice for arseholes, so probably.

[Liam-]

Charlie was also just caught out using his connections to spam twitter with fake ‘blacks for Trump’ accounts, he’s a pretty sad individual

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

I wasn't saying that, i was saying even with his debts, do you honestly think they'll affect the way he lives after he probably loses in November? Do you think his debts will affect him the same way they do us regular folks?

Im saying it's unrealistic to think he'll be broke and homeless because of any debts he has. He's a money man, he'll still live in luxury for the rest of his life, regardless. I know people want to see him at the Dole office, homeless etc with only the shirt on his back, but it's not going to happen. Same with him going to prison, 99.9% sure he wont ever see the inside of prison cell.

Obviously you, and others will think i'm on his side, im not, i don't give a toss what happens to him. Im just being realistic. Best people can hope for is he loses and just pisses off (which i doubt he will do). Thinking he'll be broke and/or go to prison for the rest of his life is wishful thinking to say the least.

I don't give a **** about how he lives after November just as long as it's not in the White House, he's a billion dollars in debt to foreign organisations, he should not have ever been allowed in the White House because it would be enough to kill anyone else's chances.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yeah that's terrible. Some people are so blinded by their rage and hatred for Trump they can't see what is right in front of them. Then will wrongly and quite worryingly say it's the victim's fault, sad.

If anyone's gullible enough to take a Trump cultist's words at face value then that is what is truly sad. The right wing have cried wolf too many times, it's foolishness to believe them without proof.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Both sides have lots of previous when it comes to this sort of thing.

Physical violence is never the answer, unless in self defence. She's most probably milking it Slim, you see it all the time in pictures when you're pushing an agenda. Both sides do it, but you can see she's taken a smack of some sort.

'Both sides' this, 'both sides' that. People who are determined to pretend to sit on the fence choose to divorce themselves from reality for a false sense of impartiality. In life, there is often someone clearly in the wrong and clearly in the right. It doesn't make someone impartial by choosing to ignore what's right in front of their noses.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If anyone's gullible enough to take a Trump cultist's words at face value then that is what is truly sad. The right wing have cried wolf too many times, it's foolishness to believe them without proof.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'Both sides' this, 'both sides' that. People who are determined to pretend to sit on the fence choose to divorce themselves from reality for a false sense of impartiality. In life, they is often someone clearly in the wrong and clearly in the right. It doesn't make someone impartial by choosing to ignore what's right in front of their noses.

[Swan]

Problem is with you Dezzy is if someone doesn't 100% agree with every single thing you say, every single opinion, they're wrong and/or false. I don't know why you post honestly, you never accept anything anyone says unless it's the same as what you think.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Nothing to say? Thought so.

Originally Posted by Swan

Problem is with you Dezzy is if someone doesn't 100% agree with every single thing you say, every single opinion, they're wrong and/or false. I don't know why you post honestly, you never accept anything anyone says unless it's the same as what you think.

Utter bull****. You're speaking in fiction trying to paint me a certain way that's just as far removed from reality as can be.

The real problem is that you simply don't understand basic concepts such as an opinion, freedom of speech or even how discussions or debates work.

I've never denied anyone their right to an opinion, I encourage you to be different to me, people are entitled to their opinions and everyone else is entitled to challenge that opinion. That is how opinions, debates and discussions work, Swan.

You can challenge my opinions any time, I'll defend them without whining about how you're trying to oppress my views or cry that you're saying my opinion is wrong. These are all copouts, weak methods of trying to devalue someone's views without actual discussion or effort put into it. You just literally went into a personal attack on me just because you can't argue against what I'm saying about Trump or the follies of centrism. Perhaps if you can't handle a debate, posting in the debate section isn't the best idea?

[arista]

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