[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

yes its crazy, plus their 'wet pubs' ie pubs that don't serve food didn't open until the middle of September and promptly closed about three weeks afterwards, so the virus must be spreading in empty buildings.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I dunno. 1) They tried local lockdowns and it didn't really work probably because 2) Germany has a comparatively orderly and "sensible" society compared to the UK, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that people in a localised lockdown in the UK will stick to their own area, and not just take a jaunt to the nearest area that's open for business.

Well they can but businesses can only have so many indoors so...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

And Even better they

Halted travel into NZ





If you go there now officially

you must stay 2 weeks then be cleared by tests

Plus they are sooooo far away .. out on a limb from anywhere


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Plus they are sooooo far away .. out on a limb from anywhere


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yes its not like they have one of the busiest airports in the world

[Zizu]

Think this is the 6th person to contract Covid19 TWICE ... that we know about .. there must be far more cases ..




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[bitontheslide]

Boris is having a news conference at 5pm tonight with Stephen Powis and Jonathan Van-Tam

[arista]

Today Live 5PM
BBC1HD
SkyNewsHD
LBC
radio 5
Times Radio DAB


PM Johnson
Stephen Powis NHS England
Jonathann Van Tam Dep. Cheif Medical Officer England


Greater Manchester need to sorted.

[joeysteele]

He'd be better having them back on a daily basis again than faffing on like this.

Of course he and his Ministers got awkward questioning when he did.
However with over half the Country and growing in restrictions or harder restrictions.

He may look better telling people daily what's going on, and what is likely to be

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Think this is the 6th person to contract Covid19 TWICE ... that we know about .. there must be far more cases ..




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...so far as I know, there aren’t far more cases, Zizu...but I read the other day...(...can’t think which link it would be but if I can recall, I’ll post it...)...there were around 29 in the world known...so this would be 30...still a tiny, tiny percentage and you’ll always get that with anything...that tiny ‘unexplained element’....

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He'd be better having them back on a daily basis again than faffing on like this.

Of course he and his Ministers got awkward questioning when he did.
However with over half the Country and growing in restrictions or harder restrictions.

He may look better telling people daily what's going on, and what is likely to be

He will not do Daily ones
this could be,
because of Greater Manchester mess,

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

He will not do Daily ones
this could be,
because of Greater Manchester mess,

A mess of his own making.
In my view.

[bitontheslide]

i think it will be deeper restrictions on many areas

[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

8,182 new cases

252 (1,859 in total) new in hospital now, a rise of 32 (419 total) new patients on the ICU, most of those were already in hospital

17 new deaths

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think it will be deeper restrictions on many areas

Yes could well be

[Cherie]

He better not be going down the stupid circuit breaker route

[arista]

Pupils sent home in half of England's secondary schools



[Almost half of secondary schools in England
sent home one or more pupils
because of Covid incidents last week,
the latest attendance figures show.
It meant pupils having to isolate in 46% of secondary
and 16% of primary schools.
Disruption from Covid has been
increasing in schools - but the way of counting
has changed which prevents comparisons
with previous weeks.]




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54614111

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...so far as I know, there aren’t far more cases, Zizu...but I read the other day...(...can’t think which link it would be but if I can recall, I’ll post it...)...there were around 29 in the world known...so this would be 30...still a tiny, tiny percentage and you’ll always get that with anything...that tiny ‘unexplained element’....

I thought that but in theory there could be thousands or hundreds of thousands of the the confirmed cases who MAY have had a very mild dose or asymptotic one some months ago .. and didn’t know they’d even had it .


The cases where they’ve had it a second time appear to be getting a more severe symptoms...so that fits


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He better not be going down the stupid circuit breaker route

i think some more areas will shift to tier 3 not just Manchester, quite a few have been talked about.

I think it would be sensible to see how places like Wales do with their circuit breaker before trying it, but then thats a sensible suggestion so I doubt it would be considered

[arista]

No Manchester Agreement
reached.

Burnham will get it Live at 5PM
from Johnson PM

[bitontheslide]

The Local Government Secretary Robert Jenrick says:

“I’m disappointed that despite recognising the gravity of the situation, the mayor has been unwilling to take the action that is required to get the spread of the virus under control in Greater Manchester and reach an agreement with the government. I have therefore advised the prime minister that these discussions have concluded without an agreement."

We understand Tier 3 restrictions - the highest level - will now be imposed. All pubs and bars, unless they are serving substantial meals, as well as betting shops, casinos, bingo halls, adult gaming centres, and soft play areas will be closed for a month.

We don't yet know when this period will begin.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The Local Government Secretary Robert Jenrick says:

“I’m disappointed that despite recognising the gravity of the situation, the mayor has been unwilling to take the action that is required to get the spread of the virus under control in Greater Manchester and reach an agreement with the government. I have therefore advised the prime minister that these discussions have concluded without an agreement."

We understand Tier 3 restrictions - the highest level - will now be imposed. All pubs and bars, unless they are serving substantial meals, as well as betting shops, casinos, bingo halls, adult gaming centres, and soft play areas will be closed for a month.

We don't yet know when this period will begin.

well those businesses got my deepest sympathies, but tbh you need to do all you can to get this virus under control

i'd say set some budget aside to help out these businesses after corona pandemic maybe

people's lives matter more than economy for the time being

[bitontheslide]

Apparently the government offered Manchester an extra 60m and Manchester came back wanting 65m ... so now they will likely get less than 60

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Apparently the government offered Manchester an extra 60m and Manchester came back wanting 65m ... so now they will likely get less than 60

He should have taken it.


Burnham is going Live in a min - All media

[arista]

Andrew Neil and Tom Newton Dunn
debating how silly to give up over 5Million quid.

Times Radio Live
DAB and Free Online
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Apparently the government offered Manchester an extra 60m and Manchester came back wanting 65m ... so now they will likely get less than 60

wealth before health