[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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I agree. The video footage of him in the car park especially looked like he was having some sort of episode. It reminded me of that case about Elisa lamb, there's footage of her in a lift in a hotel acting really strange like she's scared and is looking round corners and going in and out of the lift and she ends up dead in the water tank in the roof of the hotel. The most common theory with her death also is that she had some sort f a break down, she had Bipolar as well iirc) here's the video (it's kind of creepy)

Youtube video

I also think that the truck could have caused alot of damage to him

..first episode.../Jack Wheeler...

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...I hadn’t even considered this connection with the case and them both having bipolar and both behaving anxious and erratically ...and Elisa Lamb was discussed loads on the forum back in the day of ‘spooky stories’....

[Niamh.]

As long as there's no alien story this time

I'll watch another 1 or 2 tonight

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..first episode.../Jack Wheeler...

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...I hadn’t even considered this connection with the case and them both having bipolar and both behaving anxious and erratically ...and Elisa Lamb was discussed loads on the forum back in the day of ‘spooky stories’....

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It just instantly reminded me of her when they showed the footage of him in that parking garage, how he was behaving, don't you think?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

As long as there's no alien story this time

I'll watch another 1 or 2 tonight

...wellllllllllllllll.......they’re not exactly aliens buttttt...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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It just instantly reminded me of her when they showed the footage of him in that parking garage, how he was behaving, don't you think?

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...I will look at it a little later to refresh...I can’t seem to access it atm, it’s saying unavailable...spooky...but I’ll rewatch later, a good call though...maybe withdrawal symptoms if bipolar medication wasn’t taken for a few days...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...wellllllllllllllll.......they’re not exactly aliens buttttt...

oh god

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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...I will look at it a little later to refresh...I can’t seem to access it atm, it’s saying unavailable...spooky...but I’ll rewatch later, a good call though...maybe withdrawal symptoms if bipolar medication wasn’t taken for a few days...

Try this one

Youtube video

ETA :Oh no, it will play if you select to watch it on youtube instead

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Try this one

Youtube video

ETA :Oh no, it will play if you select to watch it on youtube instead

This is the exact case i was thinking of when watching episode one.

His strange behavior on the CCTV reminded me exactly of her behavior.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

oh god

...no seriously it is worth a watch because it’s after a tsunami and it shows so much actual footage ...it really is a must watch, it’s just all so devastating and a different type more personal related thing, rather than how we see things on the news...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

This is the exact case i was thinking of when watching episode one.

His strange behavior on the CCTV reminded me exactly of her behavior.

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And even if all his injuries were not consistent with just being moved around in the truck, who is to say he didn't have some sort of an accident, fell down some stairs maybe while in the middle of this paranoid break down and got into the bin himself while he was still alive? Or maybe he was acting erratically and ended up getting hit by a car and maybe the driver panicked and dumped his body?

Originally Posted by Ammi

...no seriously it is worth a watch because it’s after a tsunami and it shows so much actual footage ...it really is a must watch, it’s just all so devastating and a different type more personal related thing, rather than how we see things on the news...

Yeah I will do, is that ep.3?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Try this one

Youtube video

ETA :Oh no, it will play if you select to watch it on youtube instead

...yeah that’s very similar behaviour, isn’t it...a complete type of paranoia and I know that paranoia can very much be part of bi-polar...my work colleague who committed suicide a while ago...?...those were very much her symptoms frequently...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

This is the exact case i was thinking of when watching episode one.

His strange behavior on the CCTV reminded me exactly of her behavior.

...well done you as well, User for making that connection with Eliza Lamb and this vid...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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And even if all his injuries were not consistent with just being moved around in the truck, who is to say he didn't have some sort of an accident, fell down some stairs maybe while in the middle of this paranoid break down and got into the bin himself while he was still alive? Or maybe he was acting erratically and ended up getting hit by a car and maybe the driver panicked and dumped his body?

Yeah I will do, is that ep.3?

...no it’s episode 4...episode 3 is frustrating but in an entirely different way to the first two...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah that’s very similar behaviour, isn’t it...a complete type of paranoia and I know that paranoia can very much be part of bi-polar...my work colleague who committed suicide a while ago...?...those were very much her symptoms frequently...

Sorry to hear that Ammi. The mind is so fragile really

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...no it’s episode 4...episode 3 is frustrating but in an entirely different way to the first two...

hhhmm ok, well I'll definitely get ep3 watched anyway, I'll try to get 4 in too, depending on how much of them Gavin can take in one go

[Niamh.]

Here's a good time line for Ep 2

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***the fact there was a second duvet found in her room that hadn't been there before is a bit odd, isn't it?***

As a norwegian I can clarify some of the details in case the coverage doesn't translate well. I'm also currently employed by a large hotel chain in Norway and my hotel is located in the outskirt of Oslo.

The rooms locking system detected the times a keycard was used to open the door to the room. I'll leave the times with possible explanations at the bottom of my comment.

Verdens Gang (VG) and Dagbladet (DB) are not typical tabloid newspapers, and they have a good reputation so the information in them is credible in my opinion.

She/whoever was in the room pressed ok on the remote to let the reception know that she had read the message.

The Winchester branded ammunition found in the bag was for the handgun that was used.

The handgun was a 9mm Browning semi-automatic produced in Belgium between 1990 and 1991.

She did not show any passport or other form of ID and asked to pay for her stay in cash, but the only time she actually paid for anything was when she gave an extra large tip for her food service (50 kroner, approx. 8 dollars at in 1995).

The door was locked from the inside and the keycards used to open it was left inside.

There was a second comforter that is seen in the pictures of the crime-scene, but it was never investigated.

The coroner claimed it was suspicious how there was large amounts of blood spatter, but none on the hands of the victim. She also had no bruising on her hands from the recoil of the weapon, nor any gunpowder residue.

Most of the evidence was thrown out between the first investigation and now, and the hotel threw out everything from the room as soon as the police finished gathering what they thought was necessary. This includes the second comforter as the police never filed it as evidence. As of now the police have dug up her grave to look for more evidence.

The keycard is not necessary to get out of a room, but you have to use it to get in. Here's a list of times a keycard was used to open the room.

At 22:44 on Wednesday, Jennifer opened the door to room 2805 for the first time. A little later, she (or someone else) must have left the room, because the card was used again at 00:21.

The next morning, Thursday, the card was used at 08:34. It is likely that she had eaten breakfast, but I have yet to find any witness accounts of it.

On Thursday around 13:00 the room was cleaned by Vigdis Valø and a 19-year old helper. They both agreed the room was empty in the interrogations that happened the next week. The door was not opened again until next morning at 08:50, neither by employees nor guests, which means Jennifer left the room once between 08:34 and 12:44 on Thursday, and didn't return until 08:50 the next day.

The next use of a key card was Friday at 08:50. This was a new key card code, so she must have been by the reception and extended her stay before this. A hotel employee saw her go into the room and just afterwards hang a "Do not disturb" sign on the door.

That card was last used at 11:03 the Friday morning.

Friday evening at 20:06, Jennifer ordered food from the hotel's room service. At 20:23 the food was delivered. Kristin Andersen, who brought the food, noticed that the room was very tidy. The room looked untouched, the bed as well. She used the word "sterile" in her testimony (?) on the case.

A security officer went to check on her. He heard a gunshot seconds after knocking on her door, and believing that two people were inside the room, he went back down and called the police instead of investigating himself. They found her body half an hour later.

The comment has been edited to correct errors and add more information.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedM...d_dead_in_her/

[Niamh.]

Ep 3

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hhhmmm not exactly an unsolved mystery is it? A very sad story what happened to that girl but over shadowing that is that absolutely mystifying stupidity of the justice system and whoever decided it would be a good idea to give any trust or rewards to a child rapist and murderer. It's just ****ing ludicrous, I felt so bad for her sister, how angry she must be at those people in charge, it's like pissing on her sisters memory really isn't it? Even if he's ever caught he will have had an almost full lifetime of being free

[Ammi]

...episode 3...

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...he did attempt to sexually assault/rape Mary Ellen btw...I didn’t feel inclined at first to look at any other details of the case but then I wanted to know as well as it hadn’t quite completely made sense that he’d shot her twice when his history was as a sexual predator...it was when she screamed that he shot her twice...and then obviously as the officer had said, he’d gone back with a brick in realising she was still alive...such an evil crime, which had rightly received a severe penalty...I don’t agree with death penalties, which was obviously abolished but then life sentences were meant to apply in stead for such heinous crimes...

....the craziness with the justice system as well was that it wasn’t even coming up that he was wanted/...that he’d escaped...so if he’d had a traffic offence, etc...which would have been a hope...?..the police wouldn’t have been alerted still after all of those years.../...incredible......

[Ammi]

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...it’s frustrating in an entirely different way, isn’t it...because there is no mystery but such a huge injustice ...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Try this one

Youtube video

ETA :Oh no, it will play if you select to watch it on youtube instead

That was an interesting watch, very similar traits to what was happening in the garage

[Niamh.]

eP 3

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That one just made me mad, such a miscarriage of justice and his father a minister as well, "a man of God" covering for his child killing son. Gross. The whole story just left a really bad taste in my mouth

[Cherie]

I have to say I am struggling to care about Jennifer, maybe it is because there are no family members at all to comment, only half way though

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That was an interesting watch, very similar traits to what was happening in the garage

Very similar kind of agitation and paranoid behaviour, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Cherie

I have to say I am struggling to care about Jennifer, maybe it is because there are no family members at all to comment, only half way though

Yeah, it's like she's not a real person. After I watched it I wasn't that bothered but tbh chatting here about it with Ammi kind of peaked my interest about the mysteriousness of it

[Ammi]

...you solved it .../..Jennifer.....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...you solved it .../..Jennifer.....

We Ammi, We