[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Its not 'frightening' Joey,kids in Africa are starving,ours will not

It is frightening actually.
To me anyway..

I think I'll leave you to it though.
Pointless me to respond.

[Kate!]

This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been on the news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespects him in the worst way. Creep.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been onto news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespect him in the worst way. Creep.

All Johnson can do is deceive and blatantly lie Kate.

Sadly there's those who it doesn't matter what he does, he can do no wrong.
Because it suits their own hard-line agenda.

No empathy whatsoever.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Some hard evidence on UK child poverty statistics.

https://www.childrenscommissioner.go...child-poverty/

They won't likely be believed Slim.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kate!

This Government as with every Tory Government as far back as I know of want the very rich and the very poor. They have nothing but contempt for us.

As the political row over free meals continues Manchester United are putting their money where their mouths are and delivering meals to the most in need.

Boris has just been on the news spouting his usual nonsense about admiring Rashford etc. Yet he disrespects him in the worst way. Creep.

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.

Exactly.

That's really stressful and scary.
I've never been there myself but I know those who are in that position.

It's easy to say help is there, getting it is not so easy.
As often when it's claimed you don't get it, or all of it.

Plus claiming takes time.
If you're hungry and needing help now, it's needed now.

Shocking.
Even more surprising is there's people who believe every word this PM says.
When he wouldn't know what's true or decent in any shape or form politically.

He's really been able to be successful in one thing..
He's fed into and opened up most of the opinions of his most hard-line and heartless supporters.
That's for sure

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.

but as I said earlier you can't know that for a fact. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Pun intended.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't see it that way, I can see his point, money has been allocated. NO kids will starve.

And you know that how exactly? Cause Boris said so?

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

When footballers are out of touch they get criticised and when one goes out of their way to fight for a good cause they are called an annoying tit. Shouldn’t be surprised by the Tory base though.

Yup, unbelievable.

Footballers in general get such an unfair rep most of the time.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Yup, unbelievable.

Footballers in general get such an unfair rep most of the time.

really

do you have a couple of examples?


THE FOOTBALLERS WHO HAVE BROKEN LOCKDOWN RULES

https://readfootball.co/2020/06/03/t...ockdown-rules/

here are 22 who could not even adhere to basic lockdown guidelines

[Babayaro.]

It's an observation. I'm sure if I could be bothered, I'd find a lot. But I can't, so I won't.

22 footballers? People from all walks of life fail to follow lockdown guidelines every day.

[AnnieK]

Marcus is from one of the most impoverished areas in Manchester....he has experienced and seen real child poverty most likely. Its all very well saying he is rich so should put his hand in his pocket but that's just rubbish. Child poverty needs addressing and eradicating and that needs to be done at Government level. The stats on child poverty are beyond depressing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i called rashford a tit, and then people tried to justify him by naming hopkins and robinson as examples ... couldn't make it up

No I didn't. ..it was suggested that he shouldn't have a say on contemporary political issues because he's only a footballer. That's why I raised other non political figures who regularly comment on and are even invited on shows to discuss politics.

You could make it up because you are making up the intentions of my posts... maybe you'd like to clarify what makes him a tit to remove any confusion?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I've been piss poor and if it weren't for my parents at the time my family would have starved. There is not lots of help available. Try living on 70 pounds a week and keeping bills paid as well. Its impossible.

Ditto Kate, which is now I'm working the thought of my tax helping others makes me really happy!

They should raise taxes and have everyone contribute fairly instead of letting some off paying tax and only those without offshore accounts paying. Then the govt would have no excuse not to fund these things.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ditto Kate, which is now I'm working the thought of my tax helping others makes me really happy!

They should raise taxes and have everyone contribute fairly instead of letting some off paying tax and only those without offshore accounts paying. Then the govt would have no excuse not to fund these things.

Good post Kizzy. Xx

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Marcus is from one of the most impoverished areas in Manchester....he has experienced and seen real child poverty most likely. Its all very well saying he is rich so should put his hand in his pocket but that's just rubbish. Child poverty needs addressing and eradicating and that needs to be done at Government level. The stats on child poverty are beyond depressing.

Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?

No. They aren't all reprobates.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He's not a 'hero' to me ,no.

Because kids don’t deserve food if their parents have televisions? Or have you mustered up something better since I last read your thoughts of why tories are so gr8.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you think his accountant is not doing all he/she can to avoid paying tax?

Completely irrelevant. He will still be paying far more tax than some people earn in a year no matter what loopholes his accountant can find. He has still stepped up. Regardless of your football loyalties, surely you can appreciate what he is trying to do? 10 years ago he lived on an impoverished council estate in Wythenshawe.....now he's trying to give something back to not only the community he came from but also the wider community nationally.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

And of course no kids will starve , Oh the dramatics on this,but we do know the system will be highly abused as usual

'The system will be abused' Ah, already trying to paint the vulnerable as being lowlives for needing help. How vile.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They won't likely be believed Slim.

Nope, the most vulnerable are to be demonised as lazy layabouts, not people in need. Need to appease our Tory overlords after all and be thankful for their heel on the back of our necks as they convince us to blame the most vulnerable for our problems.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Completely irrelevant. He will still be paying far more tax than some people earn in a year no matter what loopholes his accountant can find. He has still stepped up. Regardless of your football loyalties, surely you can appreciate what he is trying to do? 10 years ago he lived on an impoverished council estate in Wythenshawe.....now he's trying to give something back to not only the community he came from but also the wider community nationally.

He doesn't have the right political leaning or skin colour so he should just shut up and be a footballer, apparently.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nope, the most vulnerable are to be demonised as lazy layabouts, not people in need. Need to appease our Tory overlords after all and be thankful for their heel on the back of our necks as they convince us to blame the most vulnerable for our problems.

I find it really worrying people can think so cruelly.
Always judging the poorest as the scrounging scavengers, never content with the scraps thrown to them.

While in reality the truth of what is filtered away by the so called deserving elite, will be glossed over and/ or dismissed.

I find it really sad and worrying there are unfortunately so many who still think that way.
Who'll race in to defend a government that is borrowing and squandering funds left, right and centre.
While also denying a meal scheme to be extended for only the school holiday periods.

What a mess this Country is really in with such cruel and heartless attitudes such as that.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I find it really worrying people can think so cruelly.
Always judging the poorest as the scrounging scavengers, never content with the scraps thrown to them.

While in reality the truth of what is filtered away by the so called deserving elite, will be glossed over and/ or dismissed.

I find it really sad and worrying there are unfortunately so many who still think that way.
Who'll race in to defend a government that is borrowing and squandering funds left, right and centre.
While also denying a meal scheme to be extended for only the school holiday periods.

What a mess this Country is really in with such cruel and heartless attitudes such as that.

I actually think this pandemic have shown a lot of people's true colours. On one hand there are the people who believe the government regardless of the hard heartedness and then there are the people who, in Tier 3, are facing financial ruin but are still helping families who are struggling.

Hopefully when all this is over the people will remember those who stopped children going hungry in these times.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

I worked with a lot of ‘vulnerable’ people/customers, tonnes abuse the system.. loads of peoples houses were just full of drugs and weed. That’s what they were using their universal credits on

Of course some people will abuse it

Yeah ‘some’ people will abuse. I don’t think anyone has said otherwise.