[LeatherTrumpet]

what a speech. Schooling the opposite side of the house - have a watch and see what you think? (it's very watchable and NOT boring)

Equalities Minister Kemi Badenoch made a speech during a debate on Black
History Month, in which she said any British schools teaching critical race theory
are “breaking the law” and criticised the “anti-capitalist” Black Lives Matter
group.

Youtube video

[The Slim Reaper]

We now have a school system where it is illegal to criticise capitalism, and even talk about systemic racism against black people. I'm sure the Galahad free speech warriors will be up in arms about these infringements.

True 1984 stuff.

[LeatherTrumpet]

many are saying she would make a great leader in the future

[Oliver_W]

Criticising capitalism is fine tbh. But critical race theory has no place in ... Well, anywhere really. Apart from Tumblr.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Criticising capitalism is fine tbh. But critical race theory has no place in ... Well, anywhere really. Apart from Tumblr.

Why not?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Why not?

What good will come from telling people they're automatically victims and oppressed based on their skin colour?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What good will come from telling people they're automatically victims and oppressed based on their skin colour?

Except that’s not what it does

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Except that’s not what it does

What does it do then?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What good will come from telling people they're automatically victims and oppressed based on their skin colour?

Is teaching about the holocaust, and the fact that jews have been treated with suspicion and murdered for all of modern history just about teaching them to be victims?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Is teaching about the holocaust, and the fact that jews have been treated with suspicion and murdered for all of modern history just about teaching them to be victims?

That's different as critical race theory treats the issues as being current, it's not describing historic events.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

That's different as critical race theory treats the issues as being current, it's not describing historic events.

Anti semitism is a dead concept? Discrimination is over?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Anti semitism is a dead concept? Discrimination is over?

Of course not,but teaching black people they're automatically victims, as per CRT, helps no-one.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Of course not,but teaching black people they're automatically victims, as per CRT, helps no-one.

It's not really about that, as Liam said. If your perspective is that it is, then we're really at an impasse and it's pointless carrying on

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's not really about that, as Liam said. If your perspective is that it is, then we're really at an impasse and it's pointless carrying on

Then what is it about?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Then what is it about?

Well the reason it's popular at the moment is to rile up the gallahads. But CRT by itself was an intellectual undertaking that started in the US to look into the reasons that black people suffered discrimination in the justice system, which has morphed into structural advantages that white people have historically had over black people.

It's curious that this became an issue for trump in September, then Johnson in October. Before Johnson brought it up, it had never even been mentioned in parliament before. It's more divide and conquer stuff.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Why not?

Because it upsets the racists and we can't have that!

[Redway]

What’s your obsession with discrediting BLM?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what a speech. Schooling the opposite side of the house - have a watch and see what you think? (it's very watchable and NOT boring)

Equalities Minister Kemi Badenoch made a speech during a debate on Black
History Month, in which she said any British schools teaching critical race theory
are “breaking the law” and criticised the “anti-capitalist” Black Lives Matter
group.

Youtube video

Hard to argue with any of her points

The major takeaway that we cannot improve history, we can only learn from it, and that we must stop importing the an American narrative because it is not the UKs

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hard to argue with any of her points

The major takeaway that we cannot improve history, we can only learn from it, and that we must stop importing the an American narrative because it is not the UKs

How are we learning from history by making discussions illegal? That's willfully ignoring, not learning.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

How are we learning from history by making discussions illegal? That's willfully ignoring, not learning.

who is making discussion illegal?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

who is making discussion illegal?

Discussing the abolition of capitalism is outlawed.

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...al-in-teaching

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

How are we learning from history by making discussions illegal? That's willfully ignoring, not learning.

I agree but I also think a large part of the current problem is socio-political theory (e.g. Critical Race Theory) not being discussed as theory, but instead taught or pushed as fact, with critics branded simply "wrong" (or worse) even when doing something as basic as playing devil's advocate to further the theory... which is of course the antithesis of an academic discussion.

If something like CRT (or the BLM movement, for that matter) isn't open to examination or criticism, or at least is often not providing logically sound philosophical defenses of the theory but instead relying on ad-hominem against the critic, then they stop being political theory and become political dogma.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Discussing the abolition of capitalism is outlawed.

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...al-in-teaching

It prohibits schools using material from anti-capitalist groups as an educational tool, that's not the same as making it 'illegal to criticise capitalism'

[UserSince2005]

I learnt about the slave trade in year 6 which must have been about 20 years ago

[UserSince2005]

Its actually quiet emotional to see a strong black person not play the victim.
What a beautiful woman.