[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

my mom was pro-trump in 2016, but more for the sensation because he was an outsider to the politics, but now she is very much against trump now, and also is of opinion he has done so many wrong things for America, and also done the wrong things in this coronacrisis

she also sympathizes for Biden, how he lost his first wife, child in a accident, and his son to cancer, and she also likes how he and Obama are very good friends

whilst hes done many bad things and sad some stupid things. I hope you point out to her, in the interests of balance the best US jobs market and stock market in history....Plus no foreign wars have begun thankfully. He has also passed some laws of tightening gun control. Sadly cnn and others barely report on this. Even now after covid the us unemployment is below where it was when trump began. The stock market is also higher despite covid. He did deplore the police who murdered george floyd but also rightly chose not to defund the police.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Democracy!

Surely this comes under the voting fraud umbrella? By not allowing people the right to vote

[arista]

Originally Posted by Denver

Surely this comes under the voting fraud umbrella? By not allowing people the right to vote

The Police could also vote for Trump

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by arista

The Police could also vote for Trump

they were out pepper spraying people on their way to vote yesterday

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by utopianman

whilst hes done many bad things and sad some stupid things. I hope you point out to her, in the interests of balance the best US jobs market and stock market in history....Plus no foreign wars have begun thankfully. He has also passed some laws of tightening gun control. Sadly cnn and others barely report on this. Even now after covid the us unemployment is below where it was when trump began. The stock market is also higher despite covid. He did deplore the police who murdered george floyd but also rightly chose not to defund the police.

benefits to whom, the super rich cause if biden wins they are gonna have to pay more taxes, also under biden the middle class might have a chance of a decent health care system (what trump so rudely abolished back in 2016 just moments after he won, to troll his nemesis Obama probably)

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

benefits to whom, the super rich cause if biden wins they are gonna have to pay more taxes, also under biden the middle class might have a chance of a decent health care system (what trump so rudely abolished back in 2016 just moments after he won, to troll his nemesis Obama probably)

There's a lot of falsehoods in his post. For example, the last 3 years of obama created 1.5 million more jobs than trumps first 3 years. He's basically trying to take credit for Obamas economy, but he's exploded the debt and deficits at the same time, whereas Obama reduced them.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[Ammi]

...it’s being predicted around a 1 in 10 chance of Trump winning...but that if he lost, he would challenge the result and that would take time as well for the courts to decide and rule.../...it isn’t as black and white and uncomplicated as our system here...

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s being predicted around a 1 in 10 chance of Trump winning...but that if he lost, he would challenge the result and that would take time as well for the courts to decide and rule.../...it isn’t as black and white and uncomplicated as our system here...

it's also that trump doesn't give up power until january if he loses, so all that time he will create havoc. If there isn't civil war it will be a miracle

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's also that trump doesn't give up power until january if he loses, so all that time he will create havoc. If there isn't civil war it will be a miracle

One of Trump’s former confidants, Michael Cohen, has suggested that Trump won’t leave. In his congressional testimony before heading to prison, Trump’s former attorney said, “Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power.”

Ultimately, the key to the peaceful transfer of power is the conduct of the outgoing leader himself. America has thus far been lucky in that regard.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ont-go/606259/

[arista]

Yes Ammi
Trump can fix it to stay in.

CNN HD can cry

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

benefits to whom, the super rich cause if biden wins they are gonna have to pay more taxes, also under biden the middle class might have a chance of a decent health care system (what trump so rudely abolished back in 2016 just moments after he won, to troll his nemesis Obama probably)

Benefits to everyone
wages up way beyond inflation , jobs up to record highs for everyone, ethic minorities too and disabled people, stock markets up that helps pensioners , investors, savers etc

The chip on the shoulder attitude of the left is pathetic and self defeating. they should at least be happy when things go right for the country isntead of complaining for the sake of it.

The jobs market is always worse when the left are in power and the public sector is always left bankrupted. Its then down to the hard work of the silent majority to get us out of the whole the left creates. And its from the wealth and taxes they create and pay that the infrastructure is paid for and the benefits for the sick disabled , plus war veterans and elderly

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There's a lot of falsehoods in his post. For example, the last 3 years of obama created 1.5 million more jobs than trumps first 3 years. He's basically trying to take credit for Obamas economy, but he's exploded the debt and deficits at the same time, whereas Obama reduced them.

falsehoods in what post?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by utopianman

Lets hope its nowhere near as bad as the BLM protest marches spreading covid and violence

Imagine being this upset over people protesting against racism and police brutality.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by utopianman

falsehoods in what post?

Your post. The post you're replying to points a couple out.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Ammi
Trump can fix it to stay in.

CNN HD can cry

You can't cheer this on Arista. Going full fascism to own cnn is ridiculous.

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Imagine being this upset over people protesting against racism and police brutality.

The george soros funded violent BLM marches acrosss the globe were run by a bunch of thugs and terrorists....The 14 killings in 2 weeks, including the killing of a black police officer, wheres your outrage about that then ? Or dont these lives count?

100s of business destroying, 100s of people injured, oh and spreading a killer virus during the worst pandemic in a century. Goodness knows how many more died from spreading this disease from the millions of thugs who marches around the world..No doubt many of them took the virus to care homes and killed 100s more innocent old pensioners , their lives matter too?
Oh but thats ok you can smash up the world because of 4 racist cops who are already in jail? insanity

Yes I am upset about all that I am horrified that you are not

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by utopianman

whilst hes done many bad things and sad some stupid things. I hope you point out to her, in the interests of balance the best US jobs market and stock market in history....Plus no foreign wars have begun thankfully. He has also passed some laws of tightening gun control. Sadly cnn and others barely report on this. Even now after covid the us unemployment is below where it was when trump began. The stock market is also higher despite covid. He did deplore the police who murdered george floyd but also rightly chose not to defund the police.

Can you go one post without hinting at how much you hate black people?

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Your post. The post you're replying to points a couple out.

You are lying. Point out any specific falsehoods in my post?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by utopianman

The george soros funded violent BLM marches acrosss the globe were run by a bunch of thugs and terrorists....The 14 killings in 2 weeks, including the killing of a black police officer, wheres your outrage about that then ? Or dont these lives count?

100s of business destroying, 100s of people injured, oh and spreading a killer virus during the worst pandemic in a century. Goodness knows how many more died from spreading this disease from the millions of thugs who marches around the world..No doubt many of them took the virus to care homes and killed 100s more innocent old pensioners , their lives matter too?
Oh but thats ok you can smash up the world because of 4 racist cops who are already in jail? insanity

Yes I am upset about all that I am horrified that you are not

None of this works on me since I possess common sense and I don't live in a Fox News wonderland. Go spout your propaganda to someone gullible enough to believe it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by utopianman

You are lying. Point out any specific falsehoods in my post?

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There's a lot of falsehoods in his post. For example, the last 3 years of obama created 1.5 million more jobs than trumps first 3 years. He's basically trying to take credit for Obamas economy, but he's exploded the debt and deficits at the same time, whereas Obama reduced them.

That specific enough for you?

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Can you go one post without hinting at how much you hate black people?

I like black people you are lying. You seem to hate innocent people killed by these thugs marching. and it was white people marching too, so youre making it a race issue not me. Liar. You have no sympathy for the old or the black people or the business owners killed or destroyed by these marches. It is therefore logical to assume you hate black people, old people and you dont give a damn about the business people destroyed either.

[utopianman]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That specific enough for you?

No none of that remotely points to anything I said being false. try again liar.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by utopianman

I like black people you are lying. You seem to hate innocent people killed by these thugs marching. and it was white people marching too, so youre making it a race issue not me. Liar. You have no sympathy for the old or the black people or the business owners killed or destroyed by these marches. It is therefore logical to assume you hate black people, old people and you dont give a damn about the business people destroyed either.

Okay, permabanned multi, this doesn't look defensive at all.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by utopianman

The george soros funded violent BLM marches acrosss the globe were run by a bunch of thugs and terrorists....The 14 killings in 2 weeks, including the killing of a black police officer, wheres your outrage about that then ? Or dont these lives count?

100s of business destroying, 100s of people injured, oh and spreading a killer virus during the worst pandemic in a century. Goodness knows how many more died from spreading this disease from the millions of thugs who marches around the world..No doubt many of them took the virus to care homes and killed 100s more innocent old pensioners , their lives matter too?
Oh but thats ok you can smash up the world because of 4 racist cops who are already in jail? insanity

Yes I am upset about all that I am horrified that you are not

doesn't Soros also fund climate campaigns, i mean i think i've read something where people suspect him of being onboard Greta Thunberg's team