[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i only keep in touch as he is a big Hammers fan

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can some one explain how you get obsese and develop diabetes in prison, do you get as much as you want to eat or what?

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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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You take in more calories than you burn off. If he was living a sedentary life, then it would be fairly easy even without a daily diet of bacon and cheese.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Queens hotel is clearly giving them too much food , I always said UK prison seems more like a holiday camp to them .

[Tom4784]

May he rest in piss.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i only keep in touch as he is a big Hammers fan

Over here son, on me head.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can some one explain how you get obsese and develop diabetes in prison, do you get as much as you want to eat or what?

Cherie, you can earn money in prison and use it to purchase goods and food...family or friends can send money to prisoner accounts too. If he wasnt burning the calories and was eating lots of cakes and biscuits..

[arista]

Arrogant to the bitter end: How Yorkshire Ripper bragged
he wouldn't catch Covid in jail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-dead-74.html

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Queens hotel is clearly giving them too much food , I always said UK prison seems more like a holiday camp to them .

Have you ever been to prison? I haven't, but I think it's foolish to act like it's some easy thing when a lot of people who make out that it's a summer camp would struggle to deal with it.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Have you ever been to prison? I haven't, but I think it's foolish to act like it's some easy thing when a lot of people who make out that it's a summer camp would struggle to deal with it.

My wife has spent the last year working with people who are constantly in and out of prison and they ALWAYS come out swearing that they'll never go back (though sadly, ultimately failing such is addiction). But yeah, these are people living in slum flats or sometimes straight up homeless and they describe prison as being utterly miserable... So I agree I don't think it's a holiday camp by any stretch of the imagination. And that's "petty prison", not the hard prison with the seriously dangerous people.

[Ammi]

...and in contrast and balance...the goodness of someone as well......

Son of Ripper victim called Sutcliffe’s brother to ‘offer condolences’...


The son of the Yorkshire Ripper’s first recognised victim said he reached out to the serial killer’s brother “to offer my condolences” after hearing the news of his death.

Richard McCann was only five years old when his mother, Wilma McCann, was murdered in 1975.

He revealed he had been in touch with one of Peter Sutcliffe’s brothers, Carl, following the news that the murderer had died in prison on Friday.

Mr McCann told the BBC: “I gave him a call when I got the news to offer my condolences.

“Carl Sutcliffe reached out to me many years ago when he read about my journey – he reached out to me with compassion and I felt the same.

“I know he obviously did some horrendous things but he was still his brother so I felt like I wanted to call him.”

He said news of Sutcliffe’s death had brought him “some degree of closure”, but he had never wished him dead and nor was he celebrating the news.

He said: “Every time we hear a news story about him, and my mum’s photo is often shown, it’s just another reminder of what he did.”

Mr McCann said “one positive” to come from Sutcliffe’s death is that “we’ll hear much less about him, and no more reminders about what happened all those years ago”.

Mother-of-four Ms McCann was just 28 when she was killed on playing fields in Chapeltown, Leeds, yards from her home.

Her son said he was left terrified after his mother’s death, and when Sutcliffe killed Jayne MacDonald, who also lived in his street.

Mr McCann said: “I was convinced as a child, having had no therapy of any description, that he was out there and that he was going to kill me.

“It really affected me. I was ashamed of being associated with Sutcliffe and all his crimes and, possibly, to do with the way that lots of people in society looked down, and the police and some of the media – describing some of the women as innocent and some not so innocent.

“I’m sorry to harp on about this but I’ve had to live with that shame for all these years.

“There’s only one person that should have felt any shame – although I doubt that he did – and that was Peter Sutcliffe.”

Mr McCann appealed to West Yorkshire Police to make a formal apology for the way in which his mother and other victims of Sutcliffe were described by officers in the 1970s.

He said he wants the force “once and for all” to “apologise to the families, who are still around, for the way in which they described some of the women as ‘innocent’, inferring that some were not innocent – including my mum”.

He added: “I’d invite them to make that apology. They were innocent and it would set the records straight.

“I want her to be remembered as the mother of four children, the daughter of her parents.

“She was a family woman who, through no fault of her own, was going through adversity and made some bad decisions, some risky decisions.

“She paid for those decisions with her life.”

A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said: “We have received correspondence from Mr McCann and commit to continue to engage with him directly.”

[Ammi]

...if he was in isolation for much of his time there, then lack of exercise etc, could be a huge factor with his weight as well...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...and in contrast and balance...the goodness of someone as well......

Son of Ripper victim called Sutcliffe’s brother to ‘offer condolences’...


The son of the Yorkshire Ripper’s first recognised victim said he reached out to the serial killer’s brother “to offer my condolences” after hearing the news of his death.

Richard McCann was only five years old when his mother, Wilma McCann, was murdered in 1975.

He revealed he had been in touch with one of Peter Sutcliffe’s brothers, Carl, following the news that the murderer had died in prison on Friday.

Mr McCann told the BBC: “I gave him a call when I got the news to offer my condolences.

“Carl Sutcliffe reached out to me many years ago when he read about my journey – he reached out to me with compassion and I felt the same.

“I know he obviously did some horrendous things but he was still his brother so I felt like I wanted to call him.”

He said news of Sutcliffe’s death had brought him “some degree of closure”, but he had never wished him dead and nor was he celebrating the news.

He said: “Every time we hear a news story about him, and my mum’s photo is often shown, it’s just another reminder of what he did.”

Mr McCann said “one positive” to come from Sutcliffe’s death is that “we’ll hear much less about him, and no more reminders about what happened all those years ago”.

Mother-of-four Ms McCann was just 28 when she was killed on playing fields in Chapeltown, Leeds, yards from her home.

Her son said he was left terrified after his mother’s death, and when Sutcliffe killed Jayne MacDonald, who also lived in his street.

Mr McCann said: “I was convinced as a child, having had no therapy of any description, that he was out there and that he was going to kill me.

“It really affected me. I was ashamed of being associated with Sutcliffe and all his crimes and, possibly, to do with the way that lots of people in society looked down, and the police and some of the media – describing some of the women as innocent and some not so innocent.

“I’m sorry to harp on about this but I’ve had to live with that shame for all these years.

“There’s only one person that should have felt any shame – although I doubt that he did – and that was Peter Sutcliffe.”

Mr McCann appealed to West Yorkshire Police to make a formal apology for the way in which his mother and other victims of Sutcliffe were described by officers in the 1970s.

He said he wants the force “once and for all” to “apologise to the families, who are still around, for the way in which they described some of the women as ‘innocent’, inferring that some were not innocent – including my mum”.

He added: “I’d invite them to make that apology. They were innocent and it would set the records straight.

“I want her to be remembered as the mother of four children, the daughter of her parents.

“She was a family woman who, through no fault of her own, was going through adversity and made some bad decisions, some risky decisions.

“She paid for those decisions with her life.”

A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said: “We have received correspondence from Mr McCann and commit to continue to engage with him directly.”

That's kind of him, it's easy to forget that these monsters have innocent families who likely struggle with complex feelings regarding what they've done. You may turn your back on someone, and cut them out of your life (Or the opposite) but it still doesn't make the grief easier.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Cherie, you can earn money in prison and use it to purchase goods and food...family or friends can send money to prisoner accounts too. If he wasnt burning the calories and was eating lots of cakes and biscuits..

yeah I get that but to get obsese and become diabetic even without exercise you would have to be eating a hell of a lot of stuff

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's kind of him, it's easy to forget that these monsters have innocent families who likely struggle with complex feelings regarding what they've done. You may turn your back on someone, and cut them out of your life (Or the opposite) but it still doesn't make the grief easier.

...also because Peter Sutcliffe’s brother had reached out to him as well in hearing of his life journey...so many victims extending out from those violent crimes...

[Kizzy]

I remember being terrified of him as a kid, news of him was everywhere in Leeds.
Thinking about it there hasn't been much mentioned about the covid death rate in prisons he can't be the first.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yeah I get that but to get obsese and become diabetic even without exercise you would have to be eating a hell of a lot of stuff

I guess it just built up over the years...poor diet and lack of excercise.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yeah I get that but to get obsese and become diabetic even without exercise you would have to be eating a hell of a lot of stuff

Depends.
If he was insulin dependant then the weight could pile on.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You take in more calories than you burn off. If he was living a sedentary life, then it would be fairly easy even without a daily diet of bacon and cheese.

Wasnt he a lorry driver?..sitting sweating in his own stew, eating grease rolls at the side of the road?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Wasnt he a lorry driver?..sitting sweating in his own stew, eating grease rolls at the side of the road?

He'd been in prison for nearly 40 years so ... I don't think he's been eating greasy rolls at the side of the road any time recently.

[Aaliyah]

RIP icon (for all the wrong reasons mind!)

[LaLaLand]

A successful COVID vaccine, Trump beaten, Cummings gone and now THIS all in the space of a few small weeks!?

2020 giving back in time for Christmas.

[LaLaLand]

A mate of my Dad's used to work at a local factory near here like on the gate and TYR was one of the regular delivery drivers, became a good acquaintance of his, always talked and what not when he brought the deliveries.

My Dad's mate remembers mentioning about the murders to him one time because he knew "Pete" was from that area. Creepy.

[arista]

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Have you ever been to prison? I haven't, but I think it's foolish to act like it's some easy thing when a lot of people who make out that it's a summer camp would struggle to deal with it.

Dezzy I know , I'm just saying the rules and that still seem softer on prisoners. I'm not saying the UK should be as brutal as other prisons around the world.

But Its as if some criminals treat it like a casual place ,as so many of them are in and out without a care. Especially if they know they'll only be in there for a short while.

They get full meals, can even have access to courses , internet ,some even have the audacity to stream themselves in the cell laughing with a mobile phone that they shouldn't have !. They get given a chance to rehabilitate . Look at how many chances venebles got and he still abused it .

Some sickos should just stay in prison to rot like the Yorkshire ripper .

Granted of course it would be a hard time in prison, no I've never been so I can only imagine the trouble and nightmares some might face. I'm not saying it's a walk in the park for everyone.