[arista]

[Crowds gathered at St George's Hall during
an anti lockdown protest in Liverpool today.
Police formed a line in front of them as they chanted]

[arista]

In Germany
same crowds
But they have a Water Cannon.

[arista]

Frankfurt, Germany today

[smudgie]

Hmmmm, don’t we have a few going spare somewhere.

[arista]

[Nicky91]

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...-unit-74210156

romania a fire at a Covid-19 ICU, 10 deaths all covid patients and 10 injured

[Nicky91]

[AnnieK]

Rates have dropped across all 10 Greater Manchester boroughs now....by as much as 32% in some areas. The rates started dropping once we were placed into Tier 3.....hopefully they keep going down.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Rates have dropped across all 10 Greater Manchester boroughs now....by as much as 32% in some areas. The rates started dropping once we were placed into Tier 3.....hopefully they keep going down.

that's great news

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that's great news

It really is great to finally have good news and see cases drop instead of rise. Just hope it continues.....our rates are still far higher than national averages so a way to go. My fear is once we are released back into Tier 3 and places like pubs and the Trafford Centre reopen, it will rise again. People need to realise that the cases drop when we distance from each other.

[arista]

[Elliot]

Experts currently predict things will be back to normal next December.. lmfao

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Experts currently predict things will be back to normal next December.. lmfao

Were you expecting it any sooner?

[Kizzy]

Right... I'm very confused now. Boris johnson has been told to self isolate.
So can you definitely get this thing twice or did he produce no antibodies to it when he got it earlier in the year?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Right... I'm very confused now. Boris johnson has been told to self isolate.
So can you definitely get this thing twice or did he produce no antibodies to it when he got it earlier in the year?

He had it ages ago .. the latest theories I’ve seen suggest you may only be immune for 10 to 12 weeks ..


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[arista]

Patients in hospital
14,915

Patients on ventilation
1,355

168 died today

51,934 Total UK deaths

24,962 Tested for Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

Patients in hospital
14,915

Patients on ventilation
1,355

168 died today

51,934 Total UK deaths

24,962 Tested for Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Great news going down and down

[Kizzy]

So this vaccine could potentially only give immunity for 3 months?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So this vaccine could potentially only give immunity for 3 months?

Vaccines work differently to natural immunity when they're not just a simple inoculation (giving a little bit of the live or deactivated virus)... The ones that have been developed are more complex than that. I do think it's unlikely that they'll give long-term immunity like MMR, Hep vaccines or TB etc... But more likely to give 1 - 3 years of immunity than just a few months.

It could end up being an annual vaccine for certain groups. On the other hand, if they can roll out very fast it could offer enough of a "boost" to get the R-rate down to next to nothing for long enough to get it well under control.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Great news going down and down

They’re weekend stats though so always low .. even Mondays are irrelevant.


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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Vaccines work differently to natural immunity when they're not just a simple inoculation (giving a little bit of the live or deactivated virus)... The ones that have been developed are more complex than that. I do think it's unlikely that they'll give long-term immunity like MMR, Hep vaccines or TB etc... But more likely to give 1 - 3 years of immunity than just a few months.

It could end up being an annual vaccine for certain groups. On the other hand, if they can roll out very fast it could offer enough of a "boost" to get the R-rate down to next to nothing for long enough to get it well under control.

That seems opposite to how I envisage it as a vaccine would give you just enough to fight off as opposed to contracting the virus it temporarily overwhelming your system and having to have medical intervention until you were strong enough to overcome it.
In the inoculation scenario I would expect there to be fewer antibodies that wouldn't last as long and in the recovered a greater number giving longer protection.

[bitontheslide]

they havent' given details on how long the vaccine is effective for yet, because they just dont know. Those who have been given the vaccine will be monitored long term to see how long its effective. That data should start coming through in about a year

[arista]

[Ammi]

...heart-rending...

Four-year-old boy loses both parents to coronavirus within 100 days...

[bitontheslide]

covid has brought so many heart breaking situations to families, all unique, but all equally sad and distressing. It's only people with personality disorders that are immune to the plight of so many