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Piss orf.
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Does it really matter? In terms of the wider picture he was pretty much done anyway; he wasn't invited into the Shadow Cabinet, and the ones close to him are all gone, so just let him sit in the backbenches, who cares
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Corbyn's immediate response to the EHRC findings was pretty crappy, but I think it came from a place of stupidity rather than malice.
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Ohhh apparently it's only his party membership which has been reinstated, not his whip as a Labour MP. that decision lies with Sir Keir. I wonder if he's likely to give him it back
Hmmm...
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Streuth, that irrelevant old fossil isn't worth a mutiny over, especially when Labour finally has something of an effective leader now...
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He WAS potentially a decent leader but he’s lost all credibility by wimping out on his first big decision . How can anybody trust him now ( die-hard Labour followers aside ) . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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the executive played it smart, they put the big decision back in Keirs lap. Which every way he chooses to go, he is going to annoy a lot of people
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Sir Keir not giving him back the whip.
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Starmer says he is back in the Labour Party
but he will not be an MP |
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Probably the best move tbh.
Sir Keir has said he considers himself a socialist, and that he's intending on keeping much of Corbyn's proposed policies, so maybe he should openly champion some of them, so people can't whinge that he's against unity in his party.
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If only Starmer treated the opposition with as much contempt and ruthlessness as he does the Socialists of his own party.
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Remembering Kerry
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Instead of all the nonsense.
I have never thought Corbyn an anti-Semite. He likely is a stronger supporter of the struggles of the Palestinians, rather than Israel's struggles in that area. That doesn't make him an anti-Semite however. Whether he has the Labour whip or not, he has party membership. As a backbench MP,he has the freedom to say what he likes, when he likes, then be judged on it. He's never now going to be elevated to a higher level of politics, such as Shadow Cabinet or any other role. All he had to do was agree with the EHRCs report. Admit things were handed badly. Then state a clear support for implementing the inquiry's findings. Which cannot be argued against. Then just see out his remaining time as a backbench MP, maybe even standing down next election. I think Starmer has acted as appropriately as he could,with no apology and the questioning of the inquiry findings, he has done just about all he could. This really is an issue that should be worked at by all to get over. Starmer will implement the EHRC conditions of independent investigation and disciplining of future anti-Semitic instances. That's the way to go. Never again, ever must the Labour party or any other party allow themselves to go down the road of this shameful set of instances. Not handled correctly or fairly. Racism of all kinds, discrimination and anti semitism must never ever, be brushed under the carpet or even tried to be so. |
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It's too late
the Split has started |
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The 32 Labour MPs and peers who have signed a letter demanding Jeremy Corbyn
have the whip reinstated Diane Abbott MP Tahir Ali MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle MP Zarah Sultana MP Jon Trickett MP Claudia Webbe MP Mick Whitley MP Nadia Whittome MP Beth Winter MP Paula Barker MP Apsana Begum MP Olivia Blake MP Christine Blower Pauline Bryan Richard Burgon MP Ian Byrne MP Ian Lavery MP Clive Lewis MP Rebecca Long-Bailey MP John McDonnell MP Ian Mearns MP Navendu Mishra MP Grahame Morris MP Kate Osamor MP Kate Osborne MP Bell Ribeiro-Addy MP Dan Carden MP Katy Clark Mary Foy MP John Hendy Rachel Hopkins MP Kim Johnson MP Last edited by arista; 20-11-2020 at 01:11 PM. |
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How does someone with so little personality or charisma, with fairly generic policy ideas which largely matched what Ed Milliband put forward ... how does someone like that cause such waves in politics?
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How surprising to see his ex girlfriend on the list ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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Well I hardly think politics was on DA’s mind when she signed the letter , I wouldn’t be surprised if the letter was their idea and they called in some favours ( 31 favours to be exact ) . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Last edited by Zizu; 20-11-2020 at 08:36 PM. |
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Deny, Defend, Depose.
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