[Alf]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

But their selfish way of thinking is allowed to kill many more people?

Give me the rock solid proof of that and I'll agree with you. Otherwise, your opinion doesn't trump their freedom.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Give me the rock solid proof of that and I'll agree with you. Otherwise, your opinion doesn't trump their freedom.

If the word of leading scientists around the world telling you the same thing isn't enough to convince you, then nothing will.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If the word of leading scientists around the world telling you the same thing isn't enough to convince you, then nothing will.

Dezzy, there are loads of leading scientists around the World saying differently too. Are they enough to convince you? Well ditto.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Dezzy, there are loads of leading scientists around the World saying differently too. Are they enough to convince you? Well ditto.

Except, I'm talking about actual scientists that, you know, exist? Not hypothetical ones to bolster an insane anti-science argument. My guess is that any scientists you're referring to are works of fiction or hacks that are appealing to the conspiracy loons' gullibility.

Pretty much every scientific mind worth their salt has said the same thing, you're ignoring the majority to focus on a non-existent example because the idea of it is more appealing.

You are free to do that, but I prefer to live in the real world.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except, I'm talking about actual scientists that, you know, exist? Not hypothetical ones to bolster an insane anti-science argument. My guess is that any scientists you're referring to are works of fiction or hacks that are appealing to the conspiracy loons' gullibility.

Pretty much every scientific mind worth their salt has said the same thing, you're ignoring the majority to focus on a non-existent example because the idea of it is more appealing.

You are free to do that, but I prefer to live in the real world.

Then it comes down to who people put their trust in. I don't remember you last December, campaigning for Boris, and telling us how trustworthy he is. But 11 months later you're willing to give up your freedom on the word of him and his team.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Alf

Then it comes down to who people put their trust in. I don't remember you last December, campaigning for Boris, and telling us how trustworthy he is. But 11 months later you're willing to give up your freedom on the word of him and his team.

people arent adhering to guidelines because of Boris, they are doing it because they want to stay safe and well and also have consideration for those around them

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people arent adhering to guidelines because of Boris, they are doing it because they want to stay safe and well and also have consideration for those around them

I don't see you showing much consideration for those who's livelihoods are being destroyed. Or those people commiting suicide from depression,. Or those who can't see their loved ones and can't send them off at a funeral. It does look more like you are the one who only cares about the self and your safety.

The generations that came before us, sacrificed their lives for freedom. This generation is sacrificing its freedom on the hope it saves lives.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Then it comes down to who people put their trust in. I don't remember you last December, campaigning for Boris, and telling us how trustworthy he is. But 11 months later you're willing to give up your freedom on the word of him and his team.

Who gives a **** about Boris? This is about science and facts and nothing more. Both of which laugh in the face of these maskless morons.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Who gives a **** about Boris? This is about science and facts and nothing more. Both of which laugh in the face of these maskless morons.

See?

"Maskless morons"

All your arguments are just insults of people.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

Dezzy, there are loads of leading scientists around the World saying differently too. Are they enough to convince you? Well ditto.

Who, do you have some links?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Who, do you have some links?

There's lots out there Oliver, have a research. I can't be bothered at the moment. But I will when I can be bothered, maybe tomorrow, if you haven't found anything. I've had a couple of beers and I'm not in the mood for searching for it.