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02-12-2020, 10:53 AM | #8701 | ||
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But yes I think going forward we'll see mild to moderate Covid outbreaks every winter just as we do with other viruses. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 02-12-2020 at 10:54 AM. |
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02-12-2020, 10:56 AM | #8702 | |||
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02-12-2020, 10:59 AM | #8703 | |||
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if they listen to actually what is being said, we don't know how long the immunity will last, and as it stands it would probably be rolled out like flu jabs every year maybe if they take their news from clickbaity headlines that is their impression but you can't legislate for those folks
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02-12-2020, 11:00 AM | #8704 | |||
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The bottom line here is that it is the first steps out of this mess, so we should all be cautiously optimistic
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02-12-2020, 11:05 AM | #8705 | ||
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Maybe yours is too; because outside of my circle I see the "The vaccine is here!!11!1!!1" stuff everywhere. |
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02-12-2020, 11:06 AM | #8706 | ||
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NO CHERIE. Cautious optimism leads to nothing but disappointment; miserable pragmatism leads to occasional pleasant surprises! Accept that the glass is half empty and throw that bastard at the wall!
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02-12-2020, 12:05 PM | #8707 | |||
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02-12-2020, 12:39 PM | #8709 | |||
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netherlands todays numbers
4,942 new cases (879 more than yesterday) 142 new hospitalisations (45 less than yesterday) (1,606 in total) 25 new ICU patients (5 more than yesterday) (475 in total) 66 new deaths (4 more than yesterday)
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02-12-2020, 12:43 PM | #8710 | ||
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If theres only enough for 10% of the population, would that not be most high risk people covered? Obviously in time they could do more, but aslong as the most vulnerable are done, things will be a bit better surely. I actually think healthcare staff should get the option before everyone else. But thats not been a too popular opiion elsewhere, as apparently that means I want loads of grannies to die as they should clearly be priority
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02-12-2020, 12:45 PM | #8711 | |||
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'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages' Last edited by Cherie; 02-12-2020 at 12:46 PM. |
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02-12-2020, 12:49 PM | #8712 | |||
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02-12-2020, 12:50 PM | #8713 | ||
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They should be absolutely top priority. Along with many other keyworkers actually. But saying this, is advocating genocide Glad there is some good news though, but I find it extremely odd that only a week or so back, news were saying even though tey were 'done' safety testing would mean we were unlikely to see it being rolled out until March at the earliest. Then days later, we are days away from being able to give it?! The press have been horrendous through this whole thing. I have friends who are fit and healthy and young, who are terrified to even step foot out of their door because they think they will die :/ Meanwhile, the majority of older people I know are carrying on as normal, well as normal as they can when things are shut!
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02-12-2020, 12:56 PM | #8714 | |||
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kinda sad how older people carry on like it are normal times, ignoring advice to wear masks, gloves which we say to protect them from this virus
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02-12-2020, 12:59 PM | #8715 | |||
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Hi vicky, I agree with you vaccinate the health and social care workers and shield the elderly.
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02-12-2020, 01:09 PM | #8716 | ||
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Ontop of this, what I see/hear is mainly along the lines of 'there are risks everyday, I am not not seeing family/going out for months because a virus exists that can be fatal to a minority of people', which I can understand really. I am somewhere inbetween. Not scared, but not totally ignoring it either. I imagine most are at that stage now.
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02-12-2020, 01:16 PM | #8717 | ||
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I understand older people not all wanting to shield to be honest. When you're 75+ you have no idea how many healthy years you have left... yes you might catch a fatal case of covid; but you might have a stroke or heart attack tomorrow. A few weeks/months is one thing but expecting elderly people to take themselves out of the world when they might not have a lot of time left in it anyway...? It's a stretch, and a gamble. So yeah, I do sort of understand the impulse for elderly people to think "If I might be in my final days anyway, I want to spend as many of those around friends and family as possible".
Really is there anything sadder than an elderly person in a care home dying of a stroke when they haven't been able to see their loved ones for months? I think it's awful to the point of verging on inhumane. |
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02-12-2020, 01:21 PM | #8718 | ||
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Yeah the carehome thing is awful, but I cannot see a solution really there
My dad is massively pissed off with the shielding thing. Hes classed as high risk as he doesn't have a spleen and has heart issues also. Was told to shield. Said he was not going to, but would be sensible along with everyone else (masks, stay away from large gatherings etc). But since retiring he got a part time job in tesco which he enjoys as its something to do and gets him out the house really. Tesco have blanket banned all people on the shielding list from working. He is foaming and says it should be his choice. I kind of agree, but also see why they are doing it, as no doubt if they didn't do this there could be court cases brought against them at some point. Hes still on usual pay mind. But hes not liking it at all.
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02-12-2020, 01:29 PM | #8719 | ||
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02-12-2020, 01:32 PM | #8720 | ||
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Yeah, I think their handling is shocking really. Cannot be too hard to sort. The option of staying home and still getting paid should be made to those high risk of course, but it should be an option, not a 'you will do this' situation. Mind thats a good point about coercion. I guess this way they cannot get accusations later down the line that people felt pressured.
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02-12-2020, 03:36 PM | #8722 | |||
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If you’ve had Covid and feeling better but then someone in family home then gets it .. are you still allowed to return to work EVEN though you’re living with someone who’s at home poorly with Covid ?? Surely if we’re all constantly washing our hands down and disinfecting surfaces because the Covid particles are easily transmitted then they can pass on the germs from the sick person who’s still at home ?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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02-12-2020, 03:43 PM | #8723 | |||
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There’s an old bloke in our street (who used to work in a hospital ) he’s about 78 , extremely overweight and diabetic.. He’s out and about all over the place each day in his car , going to shops and then taking bits of shopping to the older neighbours .. he’s a nice guy but he never wears a mask even when he pops into neighbours.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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02-12-2020, 03:54 PM | #8724 | |||
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Today 698 have died
59,699 Total UK deaths Patients in hospital 15,436 Patients on ventilation 1,351 16,170 New Covid-19 cases today https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ |
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02-12-2020, 03:57 PM | #8725 | |||
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