[Nicky91]

yeah so, it just means we all need the vaccinations to go a bit quicker if possible

no reason for panic

[arista]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...-2020-schedule

No data from Scotland or Northern Ireland

Today 210 have Died
Total deaths 70,405


Today 34,693 have got Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
21,286

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
1,529

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Additional Data :Covid-19 / UK Variant has spread to
France
Sweden
Switzerland
Spain
Italy
Ireland
Canada
Netherlands

From BBC:
[Three things are coming together that
mean the new variant is attracting attention:

It is rapidly replacing other versions of the virus
It has mutations that affect part of the virus likely to be important
Some of those mutations have already been shown
in the lab to increase the ability of the virus to infect cells.

All of these build a case for a virus that can spread more easily,
says the BBC's health and science correspondent, James Gallagher.

However, there is no evidence that the new variant is more lethal,
and the leading vaccines developed in recent months
should still work, experts say.]


Also
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55428953
2 have the South African Variant Covid-19

[Vanessa]

Just came back from Kew Gardens.
So happy it's open.
I love the place.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Just came back from Kew Gardens.
So happy it's open.
I love the place.

Yes great to Photograph.

[Nicky91]

in Germany, first vaccine had been given to 101 yr old Edith Kwoizalla in the town of Halberstadt in region Sachsen-Anhalt

also 40 other residents of a care home and 10 of care home workers there have been vaccinated

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

in Germany, first vaccine had been given to 101 yr old Edith Kwoizalla in the town of Halberstadt in region Sachsen-Anhalt

also 40 other residents of a care home and 10 of care home workers there have been vaccinated

That would be good on Worldwide news.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...-2020-schedule

No data from Scotland or Northern Ireland

Today 210 have Died
Total deaths 70,405


Today 34,693 have got Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
21,286

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
1,529

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Additional Data :Covid-19 / UK Variant has spread to
France
Sweden
Switzerland
Spain
Italy
Ireland

From BBC:
[Three things are coming together that
mean the new variant is attracting attention:

It is rapidly replacing other versions of the virus
It has mutations that affect part of the virus likely to be important
Some of those mutations have already been shown
in the lab to increase the ability of the virus to infect cells.

All of these build a case for a virus that can spread more easily,
says the BBC's health and science correspondent, James Gallagher.

However, there is no evidence that the new variant is more lethal,
and the leading vaccines developed in recent months
should still work, experts say.]


Also
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55428953
2 have the South African Variant Covid-19

Again the news infections is scarily high for the weekend


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

in Germany, first vaccine had been given to 101 yr old Edith Kwoizalla in the town of Halberstadt in region Sachsen-Anhalt

also 40 other residents of a care home and 10 of care home workers there have been vaccinated

Some hopeful news ... my auntie of 94 has made a full recovery from Covid !!


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[arista]

[Vanessa]

The Oxford vaccine is expected to be approved very soon.
This is great news!

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Some hopeful news ... my auntie of 94 has made a full recovery from Covid !!


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That's great news Zizu. A strong lady

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The Oxford vaccine is expected to be approved very soon.
This is great news!

i'm not so sure. It has a protection rate something like 60%+, and i'm going to refuse it if there is one that is 95%+

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm not so sure. It has a protection rate something like 60%+, and i'm going to refuse it if there is one that is 95%+

It's 95 %now.
I would take it in a heartbeat.
Sounds excellent!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm not so sure. It has a protection rate something like 60%+, and i'm going to refuse it if there is one that is 95%+

Where did you get 60% from?

[Zizu]

This doesn’t sound too hopeful .. I’ve had doubts all along about various aspects of the vaccines .




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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This doesn’t sound too hopeful .. I’ve had doubts all along about various aspects of the vaccines .




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Is that the Mirror? They were peddling no deal last week, bringing politics into health issues should be criminalised

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: corona testing locations are closed due to the storm, so lesser people could get tested today

todays numbers NL

9.108 new cases

243 new hospitalisations (2.428 in total)

42 new ICU patients (631 in total)

29 new deaths

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's 95 %now.
I would take it in a heartbeat.
Sounds excellent!

no, it has a protection rate 60-90%, that hasn't changed

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no, it has a protection rate 60-90%, that hasn't changed

It goes up to 90%if administered one dose and then half dose.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It goes up to 90%if administered one dose and then half dose.

I heard that they were considering giving as many as possible ONE dose to try and but some time and give them all ‘some’ protection and worry about the second dose later on ...


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Is that the Mirror? They were peddling no deal last week, bringing politics into health issues should be criminalised

Yes the Mirror
trying to sell their paper

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I heard that they were considering giving as many as possible ONE dose to try and but some time and give them all ‘some’ protection and worry about the second dose later on ...


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Some are calling for it, the government are not considering it

Personally I think do the job the right way, I presume in the trials the second shot was given 3 weeks after the first, so tinkering with that would be madness as there is no data on delaying the second jab?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It goes up to 90%if administered one dose and then half dose.

no, there were examples where that occured but that could be explained by the group it was given to were also all younger. The data states 60-90% ... that is the factual result, and as such, I won't be taking it when there is a vaccine that offers 95% protection without caveat.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Some are calling for it, the government are not considering it



Personally I think do the job the right way, I presume in the trials the second shot was given 3 weeks after the first, so tinkering with that would be madness as there is no data on delaying the second jab?

Plus this morning on the radio I heard that the army will be going into schools on January to show teachers how to administer the vaccines !!!

Surely not !?!?


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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I heard that they were considering giving as many as possible ONE dose to try and but some time and give them all ‘some’ protection and worry about the second dose later on ...


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Doesn't work like that; yes one dose of a vaccine can give some protection, but if you miss the "window" for the second dose you have to start over... you can't just "worry about it later" and take it whenever. I guess they might mean give one dose to bring down case numbers and then totally restart with "proper" vaccination later, but that would be a massive waste of MILLIONS of doses which seems utterly immoral given that there are many countries out there that aren't going to be able to vaccinate at all.