[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Doesn't work like that; yes one dose of a vaccine can give some protection, but if you miss the "window" for the second dose you have to start over... you can't just "worry about it later" and take it whenever. I guess they might mean give one dose to bring down case numbers and then totally restart with "proper" vaccination later, but that would be a massive waste of MILLIONS of doses which seems utterly immoral given that there are many countries out there that aren't going to be able to vaccinate at all.

Well that’s what was mentioned ... they are clearly expecting the worst in the coming weeks and a huge increase in infections equates to huge numbers of deaths ..


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[Kizzy]

I haven't followed the stats as closely are as many dying as a proportion as there were in april/may?
I thought the new strains were more infectious but less deadly?

[arista]

Today Sunday the 27th Dec 2020
316 have died.

30,501 Got Covid-19 today.

Patients in hospital
Latest available
21,286

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
1,529


70,752 Total UK Deaths (without some parts)
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...-2020-schedule

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

TalkSport just reported that a German hospital has had to dispose of tens of THOUSANDS of vaccines due to them not being kept at a low enough temperature ..

I was slighted when I mentioned my concerns weeks ago that I had doubts that the vaccines would all go smoothly - as mistakes happen ..


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[arista]

[bitontheslide]

they are going to have to do a really strict national lockdown to reduce the pressure on the nhs. We still have 2 or 3 weeks before the Christmas mingling has an affect

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are going to have to do a really strict national lockdown to reduce the pressure on the nhs. We still have 2 or 3 weeks before the Christmas mingling has an affect

We definitely need a lockdown.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are going to have to do a really strict national lockdown to reduce the pressure on the nhs. We still have 2 or 3 weeks before the Christmas mingling has an affect

everyone is already in lockdown

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

everyone is already in lockdown

no they are not, they can be a lot stricter. You need to work on your attitude Nicky, it stinks

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are going to have to do a really strict national lockdown to reduce the pressure on the nhs. We still have 2 or 3 weeks before the Christmas mingling has an affect

I agree....the main thing being they need to keep schools closed this time for a couple of weeks considering they have found out this spreads even easier in children. Its not ideal but given we are so close with the vaccines now, they need to just keep us in like in March for a couple of weeks to really give it time to drive the infections down again then the immunisation programme can ne most effective

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I agree....the main thing being they need to keep schools closed this time for a couple of weeks considering they have found out this spreads even easier in children. Its not ideal but given we are so close with the vaccines now, they need to just keep us in like in March for a couple of weeks to really give it time to drive the infections down again then the immunisation programme can ne most effective

Gove has just confirmed on Sky News
Primary Schools all return as normal !
Secondary Schools will also return on 4th Jan but ONLY for Yr 11 and Yr 13 pupils plus KeyWorker children !!!

All Secondary pupils to return as normal 11th Jan !!


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Gove has just confirmed on Sky News
Primary Schools all return as normal !
Secondary Schools will also return on 4th Jan but ONLY for Yr 11 and Yr 13 pupils plus KeyWorker children !!!

All Secondary pupils to return as normal 11th Jan !!


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I'll give it a week before my son is off then....
He was off 3 times when cases were lower so they are bound to be isolated again

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no they are not, they can be a lot stricter. You need to work on your attitude Nicky, it stinks

yes you're right, it can go a lot stricter still

especially now with the more contagious new strain

we need to act before it is too late, as for the vaccines going way too slow here in my country ugh, all because we don't want to disappoint that french company

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are going to have to do a really strict national lockdown to reduce the pressure on the nhs. We still have 2 or 3 weeks before the Christmas mingling has an affect

With this Oxford Jab set to roll out next week they are predicting around 15m people will have the vaccine by March which would suggest we are almost out of the woods and we will probaly have another 1 month lockdown in between

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Denver

With this Oxford Jab set to roll out next week they are predicting around 15m people will have the vaccine by March which would suggest we are almost out of the woods and we will probaly have another 1 month lockdown in between

Omg can you imagine that we could soon be able to have our normal life back?
I'm so emotional at the thought

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Omg can you imagine that we could soon be able to have our normal life back?
I'm so emotional at the thought

We're really close now.

[Toy Soldier]

Dunno how it could be any stricter here. No travel between counties, non-essential retail closed (thankfully no dumb **** like taping off areas of supermarkets), work from home, and schools closed until the 18th at least(I thi k into February is more likely). Unless they start a "don't leave your homes for any reason" policy.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Denver

With this Oxford Jab set to roll out next week they are predicting around 15m people will have the vaccine by March which would suggest we are almost out of the woods and we will probaly have another 1 month lockdown in between

Bull****.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Denver

With this Oxford Jab set to roll out next week they are predicting around 15m people will have the vaccine by March which would suggest we are almost out of the woods and we will probaly have another 1 month lockdown in between

Sadly THEY make a lot of predictions... I saw something last week suggesting that only about 5% of ‘those’ promised laptops ever made it to the schools /colleges


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[Vanessa]

At least we need the most vulnerable people to be vaccinated.
Then things will get better.

[bitontheslide]

The oxford vaccine leaves a 40% chance you will catch covid, therefore it only becomes effective when the majority of the world is vaccinated, and that isnt going to happen any time soon

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Bull****.

Don’t see why not, the Oxford vaccine would be similar to a flu jab roll out and that takes about 2/3 months for 25 million

[arista]

Today 357 have Died
Total Deaths :71,109


41,385 Today have been tested and have Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
21,286

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
1,529


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bitontheslide]

41,385 is an enormous number of newly infected cases. This doesnt yet take Christmas into account, January is going to be hell