[Nicky91]

Netherlands: Dutch government goes big on AstroZeneca Vaccine

News that the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine is 95% effective is ‘very good news for the Netherlands’, the AD said on Monday.

AstraZeneca chief executive Pascal Soriot told the Sunday Times in an interview that his company, which is working on the project with Oxford University, has the ‘winning formula’ for Covid-19.

Earlier reports had indicated the vaccine maybe about 70% effective for preventing illness from coronavirus infection, but Soriot now says it is as good as the one made by Pfizer and Biontech which is already being used in some countries.

The Netherlands has gone in big on the Oxford vaccine and expects 4.5 million doses in the first quarter of the year and a further 5.2 million shots in the second quarter.

By contrast, the Dutch government has ordered 2.5 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine and just 400,000 of the Moderna one, which is expected to be approved shortly.

The European Medicines Agency is expected to complete its assessments of the AstraZeneca vaccine at the end of January.

The Netherlands has come under fire for being slow off the mark to start administering the Pfizer vaccine, which most EU countries are starting today.

January

The Netherlands will not start rolling out its programme until January 8, when nursing home and home nursing staff will be first in line.

The Moderna vaccine is expected to go to nursing home residents, the AD reported.

The Netherlands is starting its vaccination programme later because the GGD health board’s IT system is not yet ready, the health council still has to make its formal recommendations and even the scripts for call centre staff still have to be written,

Health minister Hugo de Jonge told MPs earlier this month. In particular, it was not until November that officials decided to ditch the plan to have local doctors administer the vaccine and to turn to mass vaccination centres instead – partly for logistical reasons.

‘If we had gone for large scale vaccinations from the start, then we could have started two weeks earlier, I see that too,’ a senior health official told the Volkskrant in a reconstruction of events. ‘But we live in the Netherlands, and we are used to doing things on a small scale.

Usually it works fine. People were thinking in advance, but within the existing structures. And it is hard to sell that now that Germany and Belgium have already begun.’

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/1...etherlands-ad/

[arista]

Great Debate just on GMBHD itv with 4 people (something BBC AM can not do)
on should children go back to school?


Of course the problem is they can spread it
once they get home.

Some schools are not safe

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Great Debate just on GMBHD itv with 4 people (something BBC AM can not do)
on should children go back to school?


Of course the problem is they can spread it
once they get home.

Some schools are not safe

would a face mask compulsory at schools help?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

would a face mask compulsory at schools help?

Yes it would help.

[arista]

India has reported they have cases of the UK Variant Covid-19


Ref: LBC Live

[bitontheslide]

face coverings are not enough, they need to be closed until March. I've been saying this for months. We can't keep sacrificing peoples lives and keeping schools open. Close them down and open them up in the summer when its safer

[Nicky91]

NL: former chief of our RIVM Roel Coutinho has criticized our lacklustre and slow approach to the vaccinations, saying we had to act faster, to reduce pressure on our frontline workers to reduce the number of hospitalisations and ICU patients


what my government does advise now is to get young children vaccinated against RotaVirus which is a sort of stomach flu virus, which happens every year in winter, 3.500 children who have symptoms like dehydration, care our medical staff simply cannot give now amid coronacrisis when we need everyone in hospitals treating covid-19 patients

and also military personnel (more specifically military doctors) are also being stationed at hospitals to help out and reduce pressure on regular doctors, nurses

[Nicky91]

some of the latest in other countries

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55471282

Spain to keep registry of those who refuse covid vaccine

Spain is to set up a registry of people who refuse to be vaccinated against coronavirus and share it with other European Union nations, the health minister has said.

Salvador Illa said the list would not be made accessible to the public or to employers.

He said the way to defeat the virus was "to vaccinate all of us - the more the better".

Spain has been one of the countries in Europe worst affected by the virus.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55471235

Covid: Sydney Beach Party sparks backpacker deportation threat

Australia says it could deport backpackers who flout Covid rules, after hundreds were seen partying at a Sydney beach on Christmas Day.

Videos of the gathering shared on social media showed hordes of young revellers singing and dancing at Bronte Beach in breach of regulations. Many are believed to be British.

The event sparked anger and officials called it "absolutely appalling".

Sydney is battling a new outbreak after months of no local cases.

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[arista]

"Spain to keep registry of those who refuse covid vaccine"


Yes that's a good move.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

"Spain to keep registry of those who refuse covid vaccine"


Yes that's a good move.

I imagine this will be quite common across the board?

[bitontheslide]

it's quite a dodgy move by Spain, the vaccination info won't be shared within Spain but will be shared with other countries within europe

[bitontheslide]

More than 80% of the excess deaths in Russia this year are linked to the coronavirus pandemic, Deputy Prime Minister Tatiana Golikova has said.

According to the Rosstat statistics agency, there were almost 230,000 additional deaths between January and November this year compared to 2019 - which would give Russia a total coronavirus death toll of more than 186,000.

The revised total is more than three times higher than the estimated 55,000 fatalities previously acknowledged by Russian authorities.

Only two other countries - the US and Brazil - have reported a higher number of deaths in the pandemic.

[arista]

Conservative Older MP (Sir Roger Gale)
would prefer a Teacher to get his vaccine
first.


SkyNewsHD

[arista]

New Public Government Information Video
on BBC1 today.
Show a dad returning with shopping
and washed his hands.

Nothing wrong with that.


But then they show an Open Window
letting the green smoke get out.


But you tell an Old Person
to open a window in the Cold????????????????

[Vanessa]

I only open the window a little bit, it's way too cold outside.

[arista]

[Boris Johnson will decide new tiers Tonight amid fears
he will plunge two-thirds of England into toughest level four
tomorrow as SAGE adviser calls for
national lockdown to prevent
a New Year ‘catastrophe’ and admissions rise in Every region.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...AGE-warns.html

[Vanessa]

They need to close the schools. They're not safe at the moment.

[Tom4784]

The schools re-opening is a mistake, but then this government loves making mistakes.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They need to close the schools. They're not safe at the moment.

Yes many say that.
But still they think some troops can help
with testing.

[arista]

[London's 4,000-bed Nightingale hospital stands empty,
amid surging coronavirus cases and
hospital admissions across the country.
NHS England figures reveal England has
more Covid-19 patients in hospital
now than during the first wave of
the pandemic in March and April]

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

[London's 4,000-bed Nightingale hospital stands empty,
amid surging coronavirus cases and
hospital admissions across the country.
NHS England figures reveal England has
more Covid-19 patients in hospital
now than during the first wave of
the pandemic in March and April]

yeah why not use Nightingale then, when you guys need it now more than during first wave

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah why not use Nightingale then, when you guys need it now more than during first wave

Because there is no staff available.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah why not use Nightingale then, when you guys need it now more than during first wave

They have taken out all the Medical gear.
Infact its Empty of everthing.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Because there is no staff available.

Yes no Staff
bad planning

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

More than 80% of the excess deaths in Russia this year are linked to the coronavirus pandemic, Deputy Prime Minister Tatiana Golikova has said.



According to the Rosstat statistics agency, there were almost 230,000 additional deaths between January and November this year compared to 2019 - which would give Russia a total coronavirus death toll of more than 186,000.



The revised total is more than three times higher than the estimated 55,000 fatalities previously acknowledged by Russian authorities.



Only two other countries - the US and Brazil - have reported a higher number of deaths in the pandemic.

Christ knows what the true figures are for China etc


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