[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Look in the Iraq War things went wrong.


Meanwhile, Now in the USA they are only going to get $600
Trump wants everyone to get $2,000

Murdering innocent people (two of which were children) and then pardoning those murderers can't simply be summed up as 'things went wrong'.

You're still doing exactly what I said you were doing, trying to brush the dead children under the rug to cheer on Trump's meaningless theatrics.

You have no humanity.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Murdering innocent people (two of which were children) and then pardoning those murderers can't simply be summed up as 'things went wrong'.

You're still doing exactly what I said you were doing, trying to brush the dead children under the rug to cheer on Trump's meaningless theatrics.

You have no humanity.

No I agree it is wrong
the children died in that Iraq War.
GW Bush took us with Pathetic Blair
into that War.
I was against it.



But right now today
millions are without food in the USA
so if Trump signs it
they get more urgent cash.
Or even Worse
The government is going to Shutdown.

[Tom4784]

And you're using that as an excuse to gloss over the fact that Trump is pardoning war criminals as a personal favour to someone who bought a position in his cabinet with campaign donations.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And you're using that as an excuse to gloss over the fact that Trump is pardoning war criminals as a personal favour to someone who bought a position in his cabinet with campaign donations.

No Excuse
but these American people today
can get more money if Trump Signs it
or the Government will shutdown,
making everything far worse.

[Tom4784]

The UN has criticised Trump for pardoning the child killing war criminals.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55424397

[arista]

Some Great News
Trump has signed the money help deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55463276

[Ammi]

Michael Cohen says the associates Trump pardoned may now be forced to testify against him because they can no longer invoke the Fifth Amendment...


https://www.businessinsider.com/mich...0-12?r=US&IR=T

[Ammi]

...oh...

[arista]

[Senator Bernie Sanders said Monday he would filibuster the veto override vote
for the National Defense Authorization Act if a vote on
the increased checks is not brought
to the floor – holding the Senate through New Year's ]


Go Bernie


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-New-Year.html

[arista]

The Hearing is Live on CNN HD now

Trump and Bernie both want $2,000
for every American.

Mitch is against it.


Bernie is going to keep this going until New Year's Eve.

[Sticks]

Good News

A new legal move is going to keep President Trump in for another term

Story here

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) filed a lawsuit against Vice President Mike Pence in a bid to overturn the presidential election results, asking a court to give Pence “exclusive authority” to decide which Electoral College votes should be counted.

According to the lawsuit (pdf), Pence has a role in the upcoming Jan. 6, 2021, joint session of Congress to count all 50 states’ Electoral College votes. Gohmert’s lawsuit, which was filed against Pence in his capacity as vice president, is asking a federal judge to strike down the 1887 Electoral Count Act and to grant Pence the authority to overturn the election results in favor of President Donald Trump.

Gohmert’s lawsuit is claiming that any action taken by Pence on Jan. 6 to certify the Electoral College results to secure a win for Joe Biden will be fraudulent. Gohmert is also asking Judge Jeremy Kernodle, a Trump appointee, to determine that Pence is authorized to pick GOP electors who cast votes for Trump during the Joint Session of Congress.

The White House and Pence’s office didn’t immediately respond to a request by The Epoch Times for comment.

“Vice-President Pence determines which slate of electors’ votes count, or neither, for that State,” Gohmert’s lawsuit states. “If no candidate has a majority of 270 elector votes, then the House of Representatives (and only the House of Representatives) shall choose the President.”

It adds that the 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution “contains the exclusive dispute resolution mechanisms” over elections.

The court should render a judgment on whether “Vice President Pence, in his capacity as President of Senate and Presiding Officer of the January 6, 2021, Joint Session of Congress under the Twelfth Amendment, is subject solely to the requirements of the Twelfth Amendment and may exercise the exclusive authority and sole discretion in determining which electoral votes to count for a given State, and must ignore and may not rely on any provisions of the Electoral Count Act that would limit his exclusive authority and his sole discretion to determine the count, which could include votes from the slates of Republican electors from the Contested States,” Gohmert’s lawsuit says.

Gohmert noted that GOP-selected electors in several key states being contested by Trump have cast votes for Trump and Pence. The Republican parties in the states said they did so to preserve lawsuit options for the president. Electors that were certified by the key states’ executive branches cast votes during the Dec. 14 Electoral College vote, giving Biden 306 votes to Trump’s 232 votes.

Meanwhile, Gohmert said in the suit that he’s joining a GOP-led effort to challenge the Electoral College vote-count efforts on Jan. 6. The bid, which is being led by Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), has dozens of supporters in the House, Brooks told Fox News on Dec. 28.

Trump has supported the effort led by Brooks and the other Republican lawmakers to challenge the counting. But so far, it’s not clear if any senators have joined, which is needed to carry out the challenge of the electoral votes.

Gohmert filed the suit in the Eastern District of Texas. Tyler Bowyer, Nancy Cottle, Jake Hoffman, Anthony Kern, James R. Lamon, Sam Moorhead, Robert Montgomery, Lorain Pellegrino, Greg Safsten, Kelli Ward, and Michael Ward also joined the lawsuit.

The case is Gohmert v. Pence, and the case number is 6:20-cv-00660.

There is also a rally on 06 January (Read here)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Good News

A new legal move is going to keep President Trump in for another term

Story here



There is also a rally on 06 January (Read here)

A dictatorship is not good news.

The good news would be for Trump to accept the will of the American people.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

A dictatorship is not good news.

The good news would be for Trump to accept the will of the American people.

But if the election was stolen then it's not the will of the people, it's what the media establishment says it is and the media establishment is not the people.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

But if the election was stolen then it's not the will of the people, it's what the media establishment says it is and the media establishment is not the people.

Trump lost by a landslide, how many votes do you think that Biden can steal?

I'm not saying it to be smug or nasty, but Trump lost the most fair US Election result in my lifetime, and it's him who is trying to steal the Election from Biden and the Democrats.

If the result was neck and neck I'd support the investigation, but it wasn't.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Trump lost by a landslide, how many votes do you think that Biden can steal?

I'm not saying it to be smug or nasty, but Trump lost the most fair US Election result in my lifetime, and it's him who is trying to steal the Election from Biden and the Democrats.

If the result was neck and neck I'd support the investigation, but it wasn't.

Worth adding that the only fraud that's shown up so far has been republicans

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The UN has criticised Trump for pardoning the child killing war criminals.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55424397

It's says a lot that he forced through deaths of black people yet pardoned white murderers whk showed zero remorse

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Worth adding that the only fraud that's shown up so far has been republicans

I didn't know that tbf.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Good News

A new legal move is going to keep President Trump in for another term

Story here



There is also a rally on 06 January (Read here)

For those keeping the score at home, a federal judge has since thrown out this lawsuit.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Stu

For those keeping the score at home, a federal judge has since thrown out this lawsuit.

That's good to know.

This year needs to be more sensible.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Trump lost by a landslide, how many votes do you think that Biden can steal?

I'm not saying it to be smug or nasty, but Trump lost the most fair US Election result in my lifetime, and it's him who is trying to steal the Election from Biden and the Democrats.

If the result was neck and neck I'd support the investigation, but it wasn't.

Spot on Mock.

It stuns me that would be dictators in power even get supported by those in other Nations.
Even when they've been comprehensively beaten Inna democratic election.

Even IF there was a small amount of fraud, it isn't going to be in any shape or form enough to overturn this result.

I can't wait for the next 19 days to be over and this smug, arrogant and pathetic load of rubbish in the White House ito be at last out as the garbage he has shown himself to be.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Spot on Mock.

It stuns me that would be dictators in power even get supported by those in other Nations.
Even when they've been comprehensively beaten Inna democratic election.

Even IF there was a small amount of fraud, it isn't going to be in any shape or form enough to overturn this result.

I can't wait for the next 19 days to be over and this smug, arrogant and pathetic load of rubbish in the White House ito be at last out as the garbage he has shown himself to be.

I don't get it either Joey, especially considering we're in a country where we don't have leaders that try to become dictators (so blatantly anyway) and just accept it if they're only a one term PM like John Major did in the 90's.

And exactly, any fraud from Biden isn't going to be so big that Trump ends up winning the Election, Trump supporters don't have to like the result (but as Remainers have been told to do in the much closer EU Referendum result) the Trump supporters should accept that he lost and wait for 2024 where he'll more than likely stand again.

[Alf]

Sadiq Khan has ordered the same Smartmatic machines as used in this election for the London mayor election at a cost of £9m

I guess he's going to win.

[arista]

On Monday
Trump and Biden each have Rallies
as the final vote for the Senate is on Tuesday.

[arista]

[Ammi]

...is this real life...?...


Trump election lawyer Lin Wood calls for Pence to be ‘executed by firing squad’...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-elec...204515733.html