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arista · 04-01-2021, 07:36 AM

The Health Secretary (GMBHD itv Live)
said on the New Variant - you only need a small amount to get infected.
He may mean the South African Variant Covid-19.

joeysteele · 04-01-2021, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

The Health Secretary (GMBHD itv Live)
said on the New Variant - you only need a small amount to get infected.
He may mean the South African Variant Covid-19.

He's an absolute disaster.
As usual.

I just watch him in near despair now as to his in my view, gross , incompetence.

bots · 04-01-2021, 07:51 AM

there are various ways the variant could be more infectious. It could less viral load from the infected person, meaning they could be infectious to others earlier (when probably completely asymptomatic) or it could be this variant hangs around in the air longer, or it could be its increased ability to get through cell walls, meaning there is more chance of getting infected rather than it passing harmlessly through the body. As far as i am aware there has been nothing published that supports any specific reason yet

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 07:56 AM

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arista · 04-01-2021, 09:15 AM

[Health Secretary MattHancock
'does not rule out' the prospect of another national lockdown,
as Tier 3 areas see a sharp rise in cases]

SkyNewsHD

Vanessa · 04-01-2021, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

[Health Secretary MattHancock
'does not rule out' the prospect of another national lockdown,
as Tier 3 areas see a sharp rise in cases]

SkyNewsHD

Tier 4 is basically a lockdown.
They may move all of the UK in tier 4?

arista · 04-01-2021, 10:18 AM

Tier 4 is not working

The PM is on both news channels not live "Latest"
saying Tougher measures are due soon

North London Hospital.

The One question reporter
said Schools are not safe.
Many schools are not open.

joeysteele · 04-01-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Tier 4 is not working

The PM is on both news channels
saying Tougher measures are due soon

North London Hospital.

The One question bloke
said Schools are not safe.
Many schools are not open.

Well why doesn't he get on with it and do it.

Faffing on talking about it delaying vital days and risking more lives.
Honestly he infuriates me.
An impossible man it seems to deal with.

arista · 04-01-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well why doesn't he get on with it and do it.

Faffing on talking about it delaying vital days and risking more lives.
Honestly he infuriates me.
An impossible man it seems to deal with.

Yes Dithering Johnson.

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 10:23 AM

All this additional stress and turmoil is so unnecessary and could so easily have been avoided .

Boris should have put us into a lockdown after the Christmas period and everyone would have had time to adjust .

Now we’ve got schools going back , schools closing , unions involved, headmasters taking legal action ... all this while the virus spreads out of control...

When he does finally make the decision everyone will say that he was forced into doing the right thing by flamin Starmer !!

Oh Boris ..

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arista · 04-01-2021, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

All this additional stress and turmoil is so unnecessary and could so easily have been avoided .

Boris should have put us into a lockdown after the Christmas period and everyone would have had time to adjust .

Now we’ve got schools going back , schools closing , unions involved, headmasters taking legal action ... all this while the virus spreads out of control...

When he does finally make the decision everyone will say that he was forced into doing the right thing by flamin Starmer !!

Oh Boris ..

It appears he will never do what Starmer calls for

Josy · 04-01-2021, 10:27 AM

Watching Boris on the news there, announcement coming soon etc just ****ing do it now, stop dragging the feet put out an emergency announcement and get it done

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Watching Boris on the news there, announcement coming soon etc just ****ing do it now, stop dragging the feet put out an emergency announcement and get it done

He can’t do it today because Starmer demanded that Boris took action “ in the next 24hrs” .. . To save face the soonest he can do anything is tomorrow imho

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Ammi · 04-01-2021, 10:37 AM

...we’re told that the concern now is a highly contagious fast spreading variant so surely that’s also how the decisions should follow in what needs to be implemented to preserve as many lives as possible...’highly contagious and fast spreading’ etc seems incompatible with slow decision making and having more time to monitor...everything is just so contradictory...’when we look back in history’ is something that I hear a lot...but for some, there will be no history and I wonder how much of that ‘some’ could have been avoided....

Josy · 04-01-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu

He can’t do it today because Starmer demanded that Boris took action “ in the next 24hrs” .. . To save face the soonest he can do anything is tomorrow imho

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It's being announced later today apparently

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 10:44 AM

Sorry to be the bearer of even more worrying news .... it’s looking like new SA variant may NOT respond as well to the new vaccines !!!!

Robert Peston
(@Peston)
According to one of the government's scientific advisers, the reason for @MattHancock's "incredible worry" about the South African Covid-19 variant is that they are not as confident the vaccines will be as effective against it as they are for the UK's variant. https://t.co/prc2udPVVP

January 4, 2021.

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arista · 04-01-2021, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy

Watching Boris on the news there, announcement coming soon etc just ****ing do it now, stop dragging the feet put out an emergency announcement and get it done

Yes he keeps saying waiting for the numbers.

Zizu · 04-01-2021, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy

It's being announced later today apparently

24 hours and a minute AFTER Starmer’s outburst ??

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Ammi · 04-01-2021, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu

He can’t do it today because Starmer demanded that Boris took action “ in the next 24hrs” .. . To save face the soonest he can do anything is tomorrow imho

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...we seriously have a PM who would worry about ‘saving face’ over saving lives...?...that’s an horrendous notion...

arista · 04-01-2021, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sorry to be the bearer of even more worrying news .... it’s looking like new SA variant may NOT respond as well to the new vaccines !!!!

Robert Peston
(@Peston)
According to one of the government's scientific advisers, the reason for @MattHancock's "incredible worry" about the South African Covid-19 variant is that they are not as confident the vaccines will be as effective against it as they are for the UK's variant. https://t.co/prc2udPVVP

January 4, 2021.

Yes the Professor that works for OxfordAstraZennacca
Says they are doing blood tests
to find out how bad the South African Variant Covid is.

He was on GMBHD itv early.

bots · 04-01-2021, 10:50 AM

i think they will be doing something to beef up the tiers. Given that Boris said only yesterday that schools should go back today, he would be ridiculed if he were to say they should close today. My best guess is that it will be something to do with universities/colleges and keeping them closed and maybe only essential workers should travel from home, but i think that unlikely

The Slim Reaper · 04-01-2021, 10:53 AM

Schools are super spreaders, so they need to be closed. We need a full lockdown, no more tier nonsense. I live in tier 4, and it's absolutely no different to tier 1. Shops open, people out and about. This tier nonsense has to go, and clear instructions about staying home need to given.