[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the dems have become a bit like labour here, with a broad, largely incompatible, set of ideals. It's likely that Biden's biggest issue in this term will be keeping the progressives on the same page long enough to stand a chance of getting anything done in the next 2 years

The thing is (in both the UK and the US)... The centre ground of both has far more in common than either does with their fringes. If you were to completely scrap all of the parties and start over, in both the US and UK, you'd have a 3 party system... one very large, very centre party and then smaller parties to the left and right of it.

But both countries are heavily rooted in the traditional party structure that has roots in a very different world.

[arista]

[President Joe Biden’s inauguration
was met Wednesday evening in
downtown Seattle with protest
and scattered property damage
from anti-fascist marchers who
have demonstrated for months.
A group, which numbered about
100 protesters early in the evening
and later dropped in size,
marched through downtown and called for
the abolition of Immigration and
Customs Enforcement.
In chants, they decried both former
president Donald Trump and Biden.
Police made at least three arrests as of 9 p.m.,
for property damage, burglary and an assault,
according to Seattle police.]


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...operty-damage/

Burnt the USA Flag.

[arista]

President Biden
Needs to tell the USA Public
how wrong the Far Left Wing, were last night
in Portland and Seattle.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

far left doesn't exist


you only got far right

Utter bollocks.

Far right causes more issues than far left generally speaking (and as such tend to be publicized more). But denial that the far left exist at all is just..daft.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

President Biden
Needs to tell the USA Public
how wrong the Far Left Wing, were last night
in Portland and Seattle.

They smashed up The Democrat party headquarters last night too, so I believe. So as a Democrat, you'd think that "Gropey Joe the puppet President" would have something to say on that? We'll see if he does.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

They smashed up The Democrat party headquarters last night too, so I believe. So as a Democrat, you'd think that "Gropey Joe the puppet President" would have something to say on that? We'll see if he does.

Yes Far Left Rioters
not liking Biden.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Utter bollocks.

Far right causes more issues than far left generally speaking (and as such tend to be publicized more). But denial that the far left exist at all is just..daft.

Yes Nicky in his Small Nation
needs to travel
once, Covid is gone.

[arista]

Now Trump has Gone
CNN HD has removed their Death Covid Numbers
from the right side on screen.

[Toy Soldier]

To be fair these elements of antifa who are out against both Republicans and Democrats are neither left nor right wing; they're anarchists, which makes the concepts of right and left somewhat moot. They're more accurately described as libertarian extremists, which is essentially the polar opposite of the collectivism of the far left.

I suspect the confusion is in people muddling up Libertarianism and Liberalism when they are really quite distinctly different.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair these elements of antifa who are out against both Republicans and Democrats are neither left nor right wing; they're anarchists, which makes the concepts of right and left somewhat moot. They're more accurately described as libertarian extremists, which is essentially the polar opposite of the collectivism of the far left.

I suspect the confusion is in people muddling up Libertarianism and Liberalism when they are really quite distinctly different.

[“We don’t want Biden—we want revenge”
“A new world from the ashes”
“We are ungovernable”]

From a Tweet Far lefter



Sure TS
they are a mixed bag all dressed in Black clothes
Extreme Far Lefters and Libertarianism

[arista]

[arista]

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by arista

[“We don’t want Biden—we want revenge”
“A new world from the ashes”
“We are ungovernable”]

From a Tweet Far lefter



Sure TS
they are a mixed bag all dressed in Black clothes
Extreme Far Lefters and Libertarianism

The phrase "we are ungovernable", left-anarchism, is inherently incompatible with what is traditionally seen in the US as left wing ideology (socialism/ and communism)... they cannot be the "left wing" that US citizens are frequently warned about, yet it's being painted as such. I'm firmly of the opinion that as anarchistic extremists eschew all forms of official governance, the ideology is incompatible with "left & right" politics which is firmly rooted in hierarchy and government.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The phrase "we are ungovernable", left-anarchism, is inherently incompatible with what is traditionally seen in the US as left wing ideology (socialism/ and communism)... they cannot be the "left wing" that US citizens are frequently warned about, yet it's being painted as such. I'm firmly of the opinion that as anarchistic extremists eschew all forms of official governance, the ideology is incompatible with "left & right" politics which is firmly rooted in hierarchy and government.

Yes Antifa is Crazy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

[arista]

[arista]

President Biden Is Live
SkyNewsHD.

He says if everyone has a mask on
it will save 50,000 lives.

Also Everyone who Flys to USA
must have a Test, before the flight,
and will have to quarantine

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

Portland deserves exactly what they vote for. They had enough warnings over the past few years that the people they Elect, allow this to go on.

[James]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the dems have become a bit like labour here, with a broad, largely incompatible, set of ideals. It's likely that Biden's biggest issue in this term will be keeping the progressives on the same page long enough to stand a chance of getting anything done in the next 2 years

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The thing is (in both the UK and the US)... The centre ground of both has far more in common than either does with their fringes. If you were to completely scrap all of the parties and start over, in both the US and UK, you'd have a 3 party system... one very large, very centre party and then smaller parties to the left and right of it.

But both countries are heavily rooted in the traditional party structure that has roots in a very different world.

I came across this poll, that gives an idea of how the votes would go if America had a multi-party system.

Picture attached.

From https://echeloninsights.com/in-the-n...us-multiparty/

[Jack_]

Simple but genius. The look of fear

[Alf]

Get em' Ted

[LaLaLand]

This man I-

*insert any facepalm gif you like here*

[arista]

Live on CNN HD

The Biden Press Secretary Jen Psaki is Live.

On Trump Question its up the Senate
not Biden.



Next Week Jen will be with
Medical Experts

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Simple but genius. The look of fear

Thats ****ing brilliant. Proper grinning at that